Re: [Old-standards] Re: [newtrk] List of Old Standards to be retired
Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Fri, 17 December 2004 08:10 UTC
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:13:47 +0100
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
To: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Cc: "'newtrk@lists.uoregon.edu'" <newtrk@lists.uoregon.edu>, old-standards@alvestrand.no, IETF Discussion <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Old-standards] Re: [newtrk] List of Old Standards to be retired
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Carsten, please read draft-ietf-newtrk-cruft-00.txt, in particular section 3.2, and see if it answers your question.... this has been a major discussion source.... Harald --On 16. desember 2004 15:40 +0100 Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote: > So what does HISTORIC mean? > -- bad protocol (advice is to get rid of it), as in RIPv1 > -- bad specification, but the protocol is alright > -- an underlying/related technology is dying out slowly > -- an underlying/related technology is used mainly in parts of the world > many IETFers don't visit that often > -- the market is stable, so there won't be new implementations > -- existing open source implementations are doing well, so there won't be > new implementations > -- there is unlikely to be new development about this standard, as in IPv4 . newtrk resources:_____________________________________________________ web user interface: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk.html mhonarc archive: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk/index.html
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