Re: [newtrk] RE: Interoperability Testing Format
Bruce Lilly <blilly@erols.com> Thu, 11 August 2005 10:02 UTC
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From: Bruce Lilly <blilly@erols.com>
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To: NEWTRK <newtrk@lists.uoregon.edu>, Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org>
Subject: Re: [newtrk] RE: Interoperability Testing Format
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:00:55 -0400
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On Mon August 8 2005 13:15, Larry Masinter wrote: > It was pointed out that: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-implementation-02.txt > > > might be a "bad example" or at least a difficult case. One problem is that it doesn't satisfy the requirements for advancing the specification to Draft level; there is apparently only one (rather than the required two independent) implementation which meets the specification ("One vendor (NextHop) indicated "O" matching the specification"). At least the document is arranged in an item-by-item manner which facilitates identifying specification items which either result in a failure to have the necessary two implementations or which must be removed from the specification (BCP 9 sect. 4.1.2 2nd para.) for advancement. http://www.ietf.org/IESG/Implementations/rfc-2476-and-draft-gellens-submit-bis-implementation.txt is a counterexample; it is poorly organized such that it is quite difficult to determine that there are not in fact two implementations which fully meet the specification as required by BCP 9. Worse still is http://www.ietf.org/IESG/Implementations/RFC2234-implementation-report.txt which reads like a marketing blurb, contains factual errors, does not list the specification items required, and lists two implementations, neither of which meets the specification. > I'd go for a flat structure as a list of features. I'd settle for a summary of features something like that provided at the end of each major section of RFC 1123, though strictly speaking only the items affecting interoperability (i.e. not "MAY", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT" items) are necessary. That is, a brief summary of the specification item and a reference to the full specification text would be useful. I'd prefer a formal implementation report submitted as documentation for advancement to list the two independent implementations which ostensibly meet all of the requirements, but I could accept Larry's idea of separate per-implementation reports (however, in that case it is important that each report contain all of the specification items in the same order and format so that they can be easily compared)[1]. Ideally, a matrix listing the specification items as rows and the implementations as columns would be easiest to examine (are there two columns that meet all specification items). --------- 1. But not XML. It's not easily human-readable. Plain text a la RFC 1123 is *greatly* preferable. . newtrk resources:_____________________________________________________ web user interface: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk.html mhonarc archive: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~llynch/newtrk/index.html
- [newtrk] RE: Interoperability Testing Format Larry Masinter
- Re: [newtrk] RE: Interoperability Testing Format Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- RE: [newtrk] RE: Interoperability Testing Format Larry Masinter
- RE: [newtrk] RE: Interoperability Testing Format Robert Snively
- RE: [newtrk] RE: Interoperability Testing Format john.loughney
- RE: [newtrk] RE: Interoperability Testing Format Larry Masinter
- RE: [newtrk] RE: Interoperability Testing Format Larry Masinter
- RE: [newtrk] RE: Interoperability Testing Format Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [newtrk] RE: Interoperability Testing Format Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [newtrk] RE: Interoperability Testing Format Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [newtrk] RE: Interoperability Testing Format Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [newtrk] RE: Interoperability Testing Format Bruce Lilly