Re: [nfsv4] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8166 (6528)
David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> Tue, 20 April 2021 10:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8166 (6528)
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I believe this should be verified, but of course, having submitted it, I would think that. We need to hear from others who have looked at rpc-over-rdma versioning issues and particularly from the authors of rfc8166. On Mon, Apr 12, 2021, 12:40 PM RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote: > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8166, > "Remote Direct Memory Access Transport for Remote Procedure Call Version > 1". > > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6528 > > -------------------------------------- > Type: Technical > Reported by: David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> > > Section: 4.2.4 > > Original Text > ------------- > A Requester MUST NOT send an RPC-over-RDMA header with the RDMA_ERROR > procedure. A Responder MUST silently discard RDMA_ERROR procedures > > Corrected Text > -------------- > An RDMA_ERROR header cannot be sent without an assurance that, the > receiver > has posted a receive operation which its sending will satisfy. In most > cases, > this means that a Requester (i.e. one sending RPC Calls) MUST NOT send an > RPC-over-RDMA header with the RDMA_ERROR procedure. Similarly, a > Responder > (i.e. one sending RPC Replies) MUST silently discard RDMA_ERROR procedures. > > However, in the case of providing an RDMA_ERROR headers containing an > error > code of ERR_VERS, such a schema is not realizable, since there is no way > for > a receiver who does not support a particular version, to determine whether > an RPC Call or Reply is being sent, leaving the receiver uncertain as to > whether > it is being Addressed as a Requester or a Responder, leaving it unable to > participate in version negotiation. In the case of version errors, the > implementation is to rely on the assumption that forward direction > requests > are being done and reserve direction requests only done once the version is > properly negotiated. As a result, such messages MUST NOT be sent by the > client and MUST be silently discarded by servers. > > Notes > ----- > Even if one feels that this is not an appropriate correction, the existing > text must be fixed somehow. In assuming that the terms Requester and > Responder can be used this way in this context is likely to result in some > implementers concluding that version errors can never be sent while other > might be unabble to coonclude that given the effort expended in the spec to > make such errors be interpretable by anf rpc-over-rdma version. > > Instructions: > ------------- > This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. > > -------------------------------------- > RFC8166 (draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5666bis-11) > -------------------------------------- > Title : Remote Direct Memory Access Transport for Remote > Procedure Call Version 1 > Publication Date : June 2017 > Author(s) : C. Lever, Ed., W. Simpson, T. Talpey > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : Network File System Version 4 > Area : Transport > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG >
- [nfsv4] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8166 (6528) RFC Errata System
- Re: [nfsv4] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8166 (… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8166 (… Chuck Lever III
- Re: [nfsv4] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8166 (… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8166 (… Chuck Lever III
- Re: [nfsv4] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8166 (… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8166 (… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8166 (… Chuck Lever III
- Re: [nfsv4] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8166 (… Tom Talpey
- Re: [nfsv4] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8166 (… Chuck Lever III