Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done before/after Reclaim_complete?
David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> Fri, 05 April 2024 19:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done before/after Reclaim_complete?
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On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 7:23 PM Rick Macklem <rick.macklem@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I am in the process of implementing Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev and have run > into a question I cannot seem to answer from reading RFC8881. > Let me see if I can make this clearer in rfc5661bis-04. Fingers croosed. > > There is this snippet: > enum open_claim_type4 { > /* > * Not a reclaim. > */ > CLAIM_NULL = 0, > > CLAIM_PREVIOUS = 1, > CLAIM_DELEGATE_CUR = 2, > CLAIM_DELEGATE_PREV = 3, > > /* > * Not a reclaim. > * > * Like CLAIM_NULL, but object identified > * by the current filehandle. > */ > CLAIM_FH = 4, /* new to v4.1 */ > The comments in the above seem to "hint" that CLAIM_DELEGATE_PREV is a > reclaim type operation. > If that is the case, I'd assume it/should be performed by the client > before it does a > Reclaim_Complete? > I think that's right. > > Then there is this snippet: > For OPEN requests that reach the server during the grace period, the > server returns an error of NFS4ERR_GRACE. The following claim types > are exceptions: > > * OPEN requests specifying the claim type CLAIM_PREVIOUS are devoted > to reclaiming opens after a server restart and are typically only > valid during the grace period. > > * OPEN requests specifying the claim types CLAIM_DELEGATE_CUR and > CLAIM_DELEG_CUR_FH are valid both during and after the grace > period. Since the granting of the delegation that they are > subordinate to assures that there is no conflict with locks to be > reclaimed by other clients, the server need not return > NFS4ERR_GRACE when these are received during the grace period. > This clearly states that CLAIM_DELEGATE_PREV cannot be performed > during the server's grace period. > > It seems to me that this is an oversight. > The above two statements are not necessarily contradictory but it does seem > that, if the server is in its grace period, the Reclaim_Complete needs to > be > done before any Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev, since Reclaim_Complete tells > the server when to end its grace period. > Yes. > Note that, usually, a client would not be rebooting when a server is in its > grace period, but that could happen. > Yes it can. It wouldn't matter if you said "MUST NOT" or "IST STRENG VERBOTEN". > > Bottom line... > Should a client perform Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev before or after > Reclaim_Complete? > Before. > And, if the answer is "after", how does the server know when a client > is done recovering opens/delegations via Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev? > > That's why "after" is not a good answer. > Thanks for any help with this, rick > > Thanks for bringing this up. > _______________________________________________ > nfsv4 mailing list > nfsv4@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 >
- [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done bef… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] RFC: Is Open/Claim_Delegate_Prev done… Rick Macklem