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Re: [nfsv4] Some stuff on referrals/migration

Peter Staubach <Peter.Staubach@Sun.COM> Fri, 21 May 2004 22:24 UTC

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From: Peter Staubach <Peter.Staubach@Sun.COM>
Subject: Re: [nfsv4] Some stuff on referrals/migration
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Yoder, Alan wrote:
>>  I just don't think file server admins
>>are going to move stuff around - unless there's some kind
>>of accomodation for existing NFS clients.
> 
> 
>    My understanding is different.  People are doing this
> today, using tools to manage automount.  Not the ideal
> solution, but the fact that it's happening shows there's
> a need. 
> 

Actually, I think that that was kind of the point.  Admins are doing
it today, hence there is a need.  I don't think that there has been
a question of the need.

The fact that the need is there, today, and not just when NFSv4 gets
around to its support, indicates that the other protocols, NFSv2/v3,
CIFS, what have you, need to be taken into account when designing
a namespace and the associated support to create, manipulate, and
monitor it.

		ps

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