Re: [nfsv4] Documents, pre-drafts, and submission plans for documents related to the new security discussion to be part of the rfc5661bis effort.

Brian Pawlowski <beepee@gmail.com> Mon, 04 March 2024 18:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] Documents, pre-drafts, and submission plans for documents related to the new security discussion to be part of the rfc5661bis effort.
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Dave has updated the security and ACL drafts and put them in datatracker
since posting this email. Apologies, this message was stuck in queue
because of size of attachments. :-/

Please refer to these security and ACL drafts:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dnoveck-nfsv4-security/

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dnoveck-nfsv4-acls/

-- beepy

On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 9:42 AM David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have been working on next steps for the security document and have some
> documents for people to look at and will also discuss my plans for document
> submission in light of the 3/4 document submission deadline for IETF19.
>
>
>    - The current version of the Ontap implementation report is attached.
>    There are no plans to submit this as an IETF document.   People might find
>    it interesting in that it provides motivation for the changes made in the
>    ACL document.  Also, it gives an indication of the kind of information we
>    will need about existing ACL implementations.  If people have trouble with
>    the .docx format, let me know and I can post other formats.
>
>
>    - There is a pre-draft for the -08 of the security doc.  It is close
>    to complete and I will be able to submit the complete document by the
>    deadline.  There will probably not be time to incorporate
>    changes/suggestions based on the pre-draft in time for the -08, but will
>    probably have to defer responding to those until -09.
>
> Relative to -07, the main changes are to split the ACL stuff into a
> separate document, and to address the identity-related issues that Chris
> raised.  The document split makes an iddifff with -07 pretty messy.  The
> changes related to the identity issue are mostly in the sections 5.1 of the
> documents being compared.
>
>
> One noteworthy issue about the pre-draft is that since the ACL document
> has not been submitted yet, it cannot be referenced as it has to be in many
> places.  For now, I am referencing rfc5662bis instead, but will have to fix
> this before actual submission.  Also, some inter-document references are
> coded as ACLSPEC(target).  This will also be addressed before submission of
> the -08.
>
>
>    - There is also attached an early pre-draft for
>    *draft-dnoveck-nfsv4-acls-00*.  The work on this draft is not as far
>    along as that for the security document proper and will not be complete in
>    time for the 3/4 deadline.
>
> Nevertheless, I will submit something very close to the current pre-draft
> as the -00 with the understanding that there is still work to be done.  The
> first complete draft of this document will be submitted as -01 before the
> next wg interim meeting in early April.
>
>
> One important issue to note about the -00 is that the numeric ID's
> associated with consensus items in that document are temporary and likely
> to change, unlike those in the security document draft.  This will be
> relevant if some of the work discussed to transform these into github
> issues lists proceeds before acls-01 is out.
>
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