Re: [Nfvrg] RG adoption of draft-unify-nfvrg-recursive-programming

Róbert Szabó <robert.szabo@ericsson.com> Sat, 02 January 2016 15:14 UTC

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From: Róbert Szabó <robert.szabo@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [Nfvrg] RG adoption of draft-unify-nfvrg-recursive-programming
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Hi Ramki, Gino,

Let me add my view to this question as one of the editor for the https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-unify-nfvrg-challenges/. Our plan is to merged the content of this draft into the following two drafts:

1.       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-unify-nfvrg-recursive-programming/

2.       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-caszpe-nfvrg-orchestration-challenges/

While (2) may receive challenges related contents (1) shall host discussions related to different approaches to the problems. I think this is in alignment of your request.

We will update the references and follow with content merge if agreement.

Regards,
Robert


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Subject: Re: [Nfvrg] RG adoption of draft-unify-nfvrg-recursive-programming

Thanks Gino.
So, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-unify-nfvrg-recursive-programming/ should refer to the merged document https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-caszpe-nfvrg-orchestration-challenges/ and not https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-unify-nfvrg-challenges/. I guess, this is the source of confusion.
Regarding further merging of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-caszpe-nfvrg-orchestration-challenges/, we can have a separate discussion as needed.
Thanks,
Ramki

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Subject: Re: [Nfvrg] RG adoption of draft-unify-nfvrg-recursive-programming

Dear Ramki

As presented in Yokohama and briefly discussed at the interim meeting in Heidelberg, draft unify-challenges is currently merged with https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-felix-nfvrg-recursive-orchestration/.

Both drafts converged into https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-caszpe-nfvrg-orchestration-challenges/, which we (authors) aim to advance to NFVRG official I-D.

br
Gino

On 27 December 2015 at 06:16, <Ramki_Krishnan@dell.com<mailto:Ramki_Krishnan@dell.com>> wrote:
While I support this document, I would like the following to be addressed.

As co-chair

•         Merge the unify problem statement and challenges draft (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-unify-nfvrg-challenges/?include_text=1) with this document.

As participant

•         The current scope seems to be only storage local to a server. It is worth addressing the shared storage aspect as we make progress. Please clarify this aspect.

•         I see the data model as exemplary where different implementations could have variations. That said, at this stage, it is probably more useful to define an information model. Also, it worth tying this to infrastructure policies.


Thanks,
Ramki

From: Nfvrg [mailto:nfvrg-bounces@irtf.org<mailto:nfvrg-bounces@irtf.org>] On Behalf Of DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA
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Subject: Re: [Nfvrg] RG adoption of draft-unify-nfvrg-recursive-programming

Hi,

This is a reminder to all of you in the NVRG about this adoption call. So far, only two (affirmative) answers have been received.

Be goode,

On 6 Dec 2015, at 01:06 , DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA <diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com<mailto:diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com>> wrote:

Hi,

This message is to open a two-week adoption call for draft-unify-nfvrg-recursive-programming, and to identify to which of the special interest areas it should be associated with.

Please indicate in your comments “support” or “no support” and discuss how this draft will contribute to a better understanding of NFV infrastructures and how to model them.

The current draft is available at:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-unify-nfvrg-recursive-programming/

Be goode,

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