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Re: (ngtrans) Re: reconsidering the Tunnel Setup Protocol (TSP) as anngtrans project

Francis Dupont <Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr> Sat, 22 December 2001 19:20 UTC

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From: Francis Dupont <Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr>
To: Tony Hain <tony@tndh.net>
cc: "Fred L. Templin" <templin@erg.sri.com>, Marc Blanchet <Marc.Blanchet@viagenie.qc.ca>, Brian E Carpenter <brian@hursley.ibm.com>, Alain Durand <alain.durand@sun.com>, Bob Fink <fink@es.net>, NGtrans List <ngtrans@sunroof.eng.sun.com>
Subject: Re: (ngtrans) Re: reconsidering the Tunnel Setup Protocol (TSP) as anngtrans project
In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:45:25 PST. <IEEOIFENFHDKFJFILDAHOEKFDJAA.tony@tndh.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:19:36 +0100
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Reply-To: Francis Dupont <Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr>

 In your previous mail you wrote:

   6over4 is a technically sound approach which is not viable in the
   general case because IPv4 multicast has not been widely deployed. We
   can't fix the IPv4 multicast deployment issues, so keeping 6over4 around
   only serves to further confuse those who are trying to figure out a
   transition plan. It is our responsibility to provide a clear path, not
   simply a toolbox.
   
=> this is an argument to not advance it, not to make it "historic".
The clean path is the role of introduction document
(draft-ietf-ngtrans-introduction-to-ipv6-transition-xx.txt).

Regards

Francis.Dupont@enst-bretagne.fr

PS: if you'd like to clean the house before the spring (:-),
I suggest to move automatic tunnels and IPv4-compatible IPv6
addresses to historic ASAP.

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