RARE/IETF NIR WG minutes
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Minutes of the Networked Information Retrieval Working Group ============================================================ Seattle - March 30th, 1994 Co-Chairs: Jill Foster (Univ. Newcastle/RARE), Kevin Gamiel (CNIDR) Thanks to Kevin Gamiel and Janet L. Marcisak for taking notes. 1. Agenda and Minutes Agenda of meeting approved. Minutes of the last meeting were approved. 2. Reports on CNIDR and RARE related activities CNIDR: Kevin Gamiel reported that the Clearinghouse for Networked Information Discovery and Retrieval is continuing its role of promoting the use and development of NIDR standards by working on such projects as the Global Schoolhouse, Z39.50 client, server and gateway software and others. RARE: The European Commission are currently in the process of defining a work programme for the 12BXEU (very approx. 12 Billion dollars) IVth Framework initiative. One of the programmes within the IVth Framework comprises around 50MXEU in the area of Telematics for Research. RARE and its various Working Groups intend to develop and submit a large co-ordinated bid under this. A key point of the programme is the transition from text based to multi-media based communication and information services. The RARE MMEP group, a task force of the Interactive Multi Media WG (WG-IMM) and Information Services and User Support WG (WG-ISUS), has already generated ideas for possible proposals and these include: - Multimedia Chemistry - Networked CAD / CAM - Dental Training - Multimedia Conferencing for Language Teaching - A Network Interactive Learning Resource for Environmental Design - Live Interactive Teaching of Surgery between Remote Centres - Telepublishing 3. Internet draft: Status Report on NIR tools and groups Jill reported that the NIR report had been independently reviewed by volunteers from around the world. The volunteers took two or three of the templates each, contacted each template owner and updated the template. They also checked for bad software and document links referenced throughout the document. The meeting agreed to the changes and the 200+ page report has been forwarded to the area director for submission as an RFC. 4. Update schedule for report and parts of report CNIDR had offered at the last meeting to maintain the document on-line. Jane Smith (CNIDR) said that they would undertake to do this on a best effort basis. Internic also agreed to maintain the document at their sites for public access. Updates for individual templates should be sent to nir-updates@cnidr.org 5. Availability of the report in various formats The intention has always been to move to having this document on-line in hypertext. There had been offers from around the world (including early offers from CNIDR and Internic) to mark up the document in HTML. It obviously makes sense now to wait for the final RFC version before doing this. 6. "April's checklist" on the various NIR tools. April Marine reported on her continuing nir checklist work. She said that the problem in creating such a checklist lies in the cross-platfrom nature of the up and coming tools and the difficulty in maintaining such a checklist. Also, April felt that any benefits the checklist would have offered above and beyond those of the NIR report could not justify the expense of creating the checklist. The group decided not to pursue work on the checklist based on these reasons. It was noted that the matrix of NIR tools and platforms had initially been rather sparse (this was the original reason for wanting the checklist) but was now pretty complete. 7. What next? Jill queried the group for input on what should be the future of NIR. She felt that, having met its chartered goals, the group should close. This was agreed. 8. Quality issues The remainder of the NIR meeting was devoted to part of a Quality BOF chaired by Mitra. (The other part was held during the IIIR WG meeting.) Quality issues in providing information services were discussed, including: pointers to nowhere access fails (server moved or denies access) lack of administrator info incomplete or lossy gateways inefficient gateways loss of context information [ veronica / archie ] poor titles misleading information [ file extensions not standard types] expired information (exp. mirrored) The problem is that there are no formal procedures in place to deal with any of these problems. Mitra said that url:ftp//ftp.path.net/pub/ietf/quality is the brainstorm doc and 2 docs from last time. There was some discussion as to whether NIR should continue in order to discuss quality issues. It was agreed that this was not appropriate. We should spawn a new group to keep all the issues together and to keep the motivation. Alternatively another BOF could be held next time to define the range of issues and possible need for several sub-groups. This was a free ranging brainstorming session and no attempt is made to capture that here. Mitra will be putting together a document based on these discussions. Further discussion will take place on the "quality" list. quality@sunsite.unc.edu To join, mail to: listserv@sunsite.unc.edu
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