[nmrg] Re: IRSG ballot issued: <draft-irtf-nmrg-ai-challenges-06.txt> to Informational RFC

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From: "Dikshit, Saumya" <saumya.dikshit@hpe.com>
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[Updating the To, CC to authors of draft and nmrg ]

Hi all,
Not sure, if responding here is the right context for the review with “IRSG ballot issued”. If not kindly point me the right way.

I am from AIOPs group with Aruba networks, HPE. And warming up to nmrg ai leads with this read.

Since I work with lots of telemetry from networking devices (switches, WLAN, gateways), my observations are driven accordingly.

A few observations:

1) Section 6.2 covers data collection well but stops at IPFIX and SDN-based monitoring.
    Two frameworks that are now standardized and directly relevant to the ML input challenges in Section 6.1 needs more than a mention:

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YANG-Push (RFC 8641) for subscription-based datastore streaming,
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 and BMP (RFC 7854) for continuous routing-state observation.

   Both produce the structured, schema-validated streams Section 6.1 is asking for. A sentence each would close the gap.

2) Section 4 and Sections 5-7 use "challenge" for two different things: high-level adoption obstacles in Section 4,  and specific research sub-challenges with numbered headings in 5-7.
   Expert readers will track it, but a one-sentence bridge at the end of Section 4 might be of some help
   "The following sections decompose these obstacles into research-level sub-challenges" and would help readers new to the NMRG framing.
  As a reader/implementer I got stuck with this.

3) Section 9.3 covers out-of-bounds AI outputs (bandwidth exceeding link capacity) but not the adjacent failure mode:

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logically valid outputs that are operationally dangerous in context, like a correct route computation that induces a forwarding loop.

   This is distinct from adversarial ML (Section 9.2) and deserves explicit mention with a pointer to the verification/sandbox work already present in Section 5.5.

I support publication.

Best regards,
Saumya
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