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Dear Mailinglist-Owners and Mailinglist-Subscribers, the mail server at ibr.cs.tu-bs.de has been moved to a new machine, upgraded to a new MTA release and configuration and its former mailinglist manager Majordomo has been replaced by the Mailman software. The latter modification will cause a few changes that will affect you as well either as a mailinglist user or especially as a mailinglist admin (owner), although all subscriber lists and all major settings have been converted and are already used with the new software. The general mailinglist manager address <majordomo@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> is no longer active. Instead, all control messages have to be sent to addresses of the form <xxx-request@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>. Please send a message containing the word `help' to the appropriate address of the list that you are subscribed to, if you want to learn about the commands supported by Mailman. A new and very powerful feature is the Web interface of Mailman. 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You will find the Mailman Web interface (along with further documentation) at https://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/mailman, or http://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/mailman Have fun, -frank -- Frank Strauss strauss@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Technical University Braunschweig http://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/~strauss/ Institute of Operating Systems & Computer Networks Phone: +49 531 391-3266 Muehlenpfordtstrasse 23, 38106 Braunschweig, Germany Fax: +49 531 391-5936 Return-Path: <owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Received: by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) id PAA28128 for nmrg-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:25:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from cosium01.intelliden.net (cosium01.intelliden.net [12.41.186.248]) by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA28124 for <nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:25:50 +0100 (MET) Received: by cosium01.intelliden.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <C8BZZ1Z0>; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:25:11 -0700 Message-ID: <C94C3F56FA66EC4DA473B081A147D85D2D5EE6@cosium01.intelliden.net> From: John Strassner <John.Strassner@intelliden.com> To: "J.P. Martin-Flatin" <jp.martin-flatin@ieee.org>, Network Management Research Group <nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Subject: RE: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 07:25:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C19F62.C40CF740" Sender: owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19F62.C40CF740 Content-Type: text/plain The TMF is actively working in this area, and I can represent them. I agree with JP, and recommend that we start with the second topic. regards, John John Strassner Chief Strategy Officer Intelliden Corporation 90 South Cascade Avenue Colorado Springs, CO 80903 USA phone: +1.719.785.0648 FAX: +1.719.785.0644 email: john.strassner@intelliden.com -----Original Message----- From: J.P. Martin-Flatin [mailto:jp.martin-flatin@ieee.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:42 AM To: Network Management Research Group Subject: Re: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy Perhaps we could try to draft what Andrea calls an Abstract Technology Model (ATM) -- what I call a Universal Information Model (UIM) -- based on existing work by the IETF, DMTF, and ITU-T? If so, I think we should schedule 2 days for our next NMRG meeting and limit our discussions to only one of the two topics suggested by Dave: - ATM/UIM derived from the DMTF Event Model and ITU-T X.731? - ATM/UIM derived from the IETF Entity MIB, the DMTF System and Network Models, and the ITU-T M.3100 JP Andrea Westerinen wrote: > I will also be at NOMS - so we could bring the DMTF work into both > discussions. > > Andrea > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de [mailto:owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de]On > Behalf Of David T. Perkins > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:02 AM > To: Network Management Research Group > Subject: Re: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy > > > HI, > > This would be a fantastic opportunity to talk about two topics: > 1) fault/alarm management (since several attendees are suppose > to be experts) and this would be where we can make some > real progress on getting the model well defined (since > I'm still having problems with the DISMAN work) > 2) convergence of the Entity MIB and the M.3100 models for > chassis management. And the state management from > X.731, which has no counter part in the IETF MIB modules. > > Regards, > /david t. perkins > > > At 12:29 PM 1/15/2002 +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > >>Shall we hold an NMRG meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy? See >><http://www.comsoc.org/confs/noms/2002/index.html> for more details on >>NOMS 2002. Perhaps Luca can help us with some of the logistics if >>we do an NMRG meeting in Italy before or after NOMS 2002? >> >>I guess that many folks will be at NOMS anyway so it might be a good >>opportunity to do some additional work. Let me know what you think and >>whether you have any particular topics you want to put on the agenda. >> >>/js >> >>-- >>Juergen Schoenwaelder University of Osnabrueck >><schoenw@inf.uos.de> Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Science >>Phone: +49 541 969 2483 Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 Osnabrueck, Germany >>Fax: +49 541 969 2770 <http://www.informatik.uni-osnabrueck.de/> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19F62.C40CF740 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii"> <META NAME=3D"Generator" CONTENT=3D"MS Exchange Server version = 5.5.2653.12"> <TITLE>RE: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The TMF is actively working in this area, and I can = represent them. I agree with JP, and recommend that we start with the = second topic.</FONT></P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>regards,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>John</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>John Strassner</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Chief Strategy Officer</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Intelliden Corporation</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>90 South Cascade Avenue</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Colorado Springs, CO 80903 USA</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>phone: +1.719.785.0648</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> FAX: +1.719.785.0644</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>email: john.strassner@intelliden.com </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> </FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: J.P. Martin-Flatin [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:jp.martin-flatin@ieee.org">mailto:jp.martin-flatin@ieee.o= rg</A>] </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:42 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Network Management Research Group</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in = Italy</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Perhaps we could try to draft what Andrea calls an = Abstract Technology </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Model (ATM) -- what I call a Universal Information = Model (UIM) -- based on </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>existing work by the IETF, DMTF, and ITU-T?</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If so, I think we should schedule 2 days for our next = NMRG meeting and </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>limit our discussions to only one of the two topics = suggested by Dave:</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2> - ATM/UIM derived from the DMTF Event Model = and ITU-T X.731?</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2> - ATM/UIM derived from the IETF Entity MIB, = the DMTF System and Network</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> Models, and the ITU-T = M.3100</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>JP</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Andrea Westerinen wrote:</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> I will also be at NOMS - so we could bring the = DMTF work into both</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> discussions.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Andrea</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> From: owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de [<A = HREF=3D"mailto:owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de">mailto:owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-b= s.de</A>]On</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Behalf Of David T. Perkins</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:02 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> To: Network Management Research Group</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Subject: Re: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 = in Italy</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> HI,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> This would be a fantastic opportunity to talk = about two topics:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> 1) fault/alarm management (since several = attendees are suppose</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> to be experts) and this would = be where we can make some</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> real progress on getting the = model well defined (since</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> I'm still having problems = with the DISMAN work)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> 2) convergence of the Entity MIB and the M.3100 = models for</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> chassis management. And the = state management from</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> X.731, which has no counter = part in the IETF MIB modules.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> Regards,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> /david t. perkins</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> At 12:29 PM 1/15/2002 +0100, Juergen = Schoenwaelder wrote:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>Shall we hold an NMRG meeting next to NOMS = 2002 in Italy? See</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>><<A = HREF=3D"http://www.comsoc.org/confs/noms/2002/index.html" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.comsoc.org/confs/noms/2002/index.html</A>&g= t; for more details on</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>NOMS 2002. Perhaps Luca can help us with = some of the logistics if</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>we do an NMRG meeting in Italy before or = after NOMS 2002?</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>I guess that many folks will be at NOMS = anyway so it might be a good</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>opportunity to do some additional work. Let = me know what you think and</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>whether you have any particular topics you = want to put on the agenda.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>/js</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>--</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>Juergen = Schoenwaelder University of = Osnabrueck</FONT> <BR><FONT = SIZE=3D2>>><schoenw@inf.uos.de>  = ; Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Science</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>Phone: +49 541 969 2483 = Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 Osnabrueck, Germany</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>Fax: +49 541 969 = 2770 <<A = HREF=3D"http://www.informatik.uni-osnabrueck.de/" = TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.informatik.uni-osnabrueck.de/</A>></FONT= > </P> <BR> </BODY> </HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C19F62.C40CF740-- Return-Path: <owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Received: by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) id OAA19175 for nmrg-outgoing; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:47:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl (utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl [130.89.10.247]) by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA19170; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:47:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from ctit.utwente.nl (utip064.cs.utwente.nl [130.89.12.90]) by utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22791; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:47:41 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3C458477.EF242511@ctit.utwente.nl> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:47:35 +0100 From: Aiko Pras <pras@ctit.utwente.nl> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> CC: Network Management Research Group <nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Subject: Re: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy References: <200201151129.g0FBT7I00618@haerke.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Precedence: bulk Hi I will be there too. Aiko Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > Shall we hold an NMRG meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy? See > <http://www.comsoc.org/confs/noms/2002/index.html> for more details on > NOMS 2002. Perhaps Luca can help us with some of the logistics if > we do an NMRG meeting in Italy before or after NOMS 2002? > > I guess that many folks will be at NOMS anyway so it might be a good > opportunity to do some additional work. Let me know what you think and > whether you have any particular topics you want to put on the agenda. > > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder University of Osnabrueck > <schoenw@inf.uos.de> Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Science > Phone: +49 541 969 2483 Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 Osnabrueck, Germany > Fax: +49 541 969 2770 <http://www.informatik.uni-osnabrueck.de/> Return-Path: <owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Received: by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) id NAA18870 for nmrg-outgoing; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:44:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from mta1n.bluewin.ch (mta1n.bluewin.ch [195.186.1.210]) by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA18866 for <nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:44:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from ieee.org (213.3.50.134) by mta1n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.0.039) id 3C452F7800020808 for nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:43:35 +0100 Message-ID: <3C457518.80904@ieee.org> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:42:00 +0100 From: "J.P. Martin-Flatin" <jp.martin-flatin@ieee.org> Reply-To: "J.P. Martin-Flatin" <jp.martin-flatin@ieee.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Network Management Research Group <nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Subject: Re: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy References: <GGEOLLMKEOKMFKADFNHOIEDHEIAA.andreaw@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Precedence: bulk Perhaps we could try to draft what Andrea calls an Abstract Technology Model (ATM) -- what I call a Universal Information Model (UIM) -- based on existing work by the IETF, DMTF, and ITU-T? If so, I think we should schedule 2 days for our next NMRG meeting and limit our discussions to only one of the two topics suggested by Dave: - ATM/UIM derived from the DMTF Event Model and ITU-T X.731? - ATM/UIM derived from the IETF Entity MIB, the DMTF System and Network Models, and the ITU-T M.3100 JP Andrea Westerinen wrote: > I will also be at NOMS - so we could bring the DMTF work into both > discussions. > > Andrea > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de [mailto:owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de]On > Behalf Of David T. Perkins > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:02 AM > To: Network Management Research Group > Subject: Re: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy > > > HI, > > This would be a fantastic opportunity to talk about two topics: > 1) fault/alarm management (since several attendees are suppose > to be experts) and this would be where we can make some > real progress on getting the model well defined (since > I'm still having problems with the DISMAN work) > 2) convergence of the Entity MIB and the M.3100 models for > chassis management. And the state management from > X.731, which has no counter part in the IETF MIB modules. > > Regards, > /david t. perkins > > > At 12:29 PM 1/15/2002 +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > >>Shall we hold an NMRG meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy? See >><http://www.comsoc.org/confs/noms/2002/index.html> for more details on >>NOMS 2002. Perhaps Luca can help us with some of the logistics if >>we do an NMRG meeting in Italy before or after NOMS 2002? >> >>I guess that many folks will be at NOMS anyway so it might be a good >>opportunity to do some additional work. Let me know what you think and >>whether you have any particular topics you want to put on the agenda. >> >>/js >> >>-- >>Juergen Schoenwaelder University of Osnabrueck >><schoenw@inf.uos.de> Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Science >>Phone: +49 541 969 2483 Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 Osnabrueck, Germany >>Fax: +49 541 969 2770 <http://www.informatik.uni-osnabrueck.de/> Return-Path: <owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Received: by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) id IAA16656 for nmrg-outgoing; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:35:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com [171.70.157.152]) by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA16652 for <nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>; Wed, 16 Jan 2002 08:35:51 +0100 (MET) Received: from mira-sjcm-2.cisco.com (mira-sjcm-2.cisco.com [171.69.24.14]) by sj-msg-core-3.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id g0G7Yqk23793; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ANDREAWW2K (andreaw-frame1.cisco.com [10.19.253.186]) by mira-sjcm-2.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with SMTP id ABJ47498; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:35:03 -0800 (PST) From: "Andrea Westerinen" <andreaw@cisco.com> To: "David T. Perkins" <dperkins@dsperkins.com>, "Network Management Research Group" <nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Subject: RE: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 23:38:04 -0800 Message-ID: <GGEOLLMKEOKMFKADFNHOIEDHEIAA.andreaw@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20020115105540.02bff120@mail4.bayarea.net> Sender: owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Precedence: bulk I will also be at NOMS - so we could bring the DMTF work into both discussions. Andrea -----Original Message----- From: owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de [mailto:owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de]On Behalf Of David T. Perkins Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:02 AM To: Network Management Research Group Subject: Re: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy HI, This would be a fantastic opportunity to talk about two topics: 1) fault/alarm management (since several attendees are suppose to be experts) and this would be where we can make some real progress on getting the model well defined (since I'm still having problems with the DISMAN work) 2) convergence of the Entity MIB and the M.3100 models for chassis management. And the state management from X.731, which has no counter part in the IETF MIB modules. Regards, /david t. perkins At 12:29 PM 1/15/2002 +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: >Shall we hold an NMRG meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy? See ><http://www.comsoc.org/confs/noms/2002/index.html> for more details on >NOMS 2002. Perhaps Luca can help us with some of the logistics if >we do an NMRG meeting in Italy before or after NOMS 2002? > >I guess that many folks will be at NOMS anyway so it might be a good >opportunity to do some additional work. Let me know what you think and >whether you have any particular topics you want to put on the agenda. > >/js > >-- >Juergen Schoenwaelder University of Osnabrueck ><schoenw@inf.uos.de> Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Science >Phone: +49 541 969 2483 Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 Osnabrueck, Germany >Fax: +49 541 969 2770 <http://www.informatik.uni-osnabrueck.de/> Return-Path: <owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Received: by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) id UAA11061 for nmrg-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:04:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from riverstonenet.com (mail.riverstonenet.com [63.113.148.10]) by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA11057 for <nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:02:53 +0100 (MET) Received: from dperkins-nb2.dsperkins.com by riverstonenet.com (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4-Yago) id LAA20712; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:02:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20020115105540.02bff120@mail4.bayarea.net> X-Sender: dperkins@mail4.bayarea.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:02:03 -0800 To: Network Management Research Group <nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> From: "David T. Perkins" <dperkins@dsperkins.com> Subject: Re: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy In-Reply-To: <200201151129.g0FBT7I00618@haerke.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Precedence: bulk HI, This would be a fantastic opportunity to talk about two topics: 1) fault/alarm management (since several attendees are suppose to be experts) and this would be where we can make some real progress on getting the model well defined (since I'm still having problems with the DISMAN work) 2) convergence of the Entity MIB and the M.3100 models for chassis management. And the state management from X.731, which has no counter part in the IETF MIB modules. Regards, /david t. perkins At 12:29 PM 1/15/2002 +0100, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: >Shall we hold an NMRG meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy? See ><http://www.comsoc.org/confs/noms/2002/index.html> for more details on >NOMS 2002. Perhaps Luca can help us with some of the logistics if >we do an NMRG meeting in Italy before or after NOMS 2002? > >I guess that many folks will be at NOMS anyway so it might be a good >opportunity to do some additional work. Let me know what you think and >whether you have any particular topics you want to put on the agenda. > >/js > >-- >Juergen Schoenwaelder University of Osnabrueck ><schoenw@inf.uos.de> Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Science >Phone: +49 541 969 2483 Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 Osnabrueck, Germany >Fax: +49 541 969 2770 <http://www.informatik.uni-osnabrueck.de/> Return-Path: <owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Received: by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) id RAA09698 for nmrg-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:26:56 +0100 (MET) Received: from mta11n.bluewin.ch (mta11n.bluewin.ch [195.186.1.211]) by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA09694 for <nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:26:55 +0100 (MET) Received: from ieee.org (62.202.47.253) by mta11n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.0.039) id 3C444B5500004967 for nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:26:22 +0100 Message-ID: <3C4457D5.1020104@ieee.org> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:24:53 +0100 From: "J.P. Martin-Flatin" <jp.martin-flatin@ieee.org> Reply-To: "J.P. Martin-Flatin" <jp.martin-flatin@ieee.org> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.7) Gecko/20011221 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Network Management Research Group <nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Subject: Re: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy References: <200201151129.g0FBT7I00618@haerke.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Precedence: bulk Yes, I think it would be a good idea to meet in Florence. I can give a 30-minute informal update on my recent work on information modeling, if some of you are interested. Juergen, could you give us a short update on SNMP-over-TCP on that occasion? Are there items we could work on during this meeting that would help finalize the RFC? Regarding schedule, I plan to attend several NOMS tutorials, so I'd rather we meet before the Monday tutorials or after the Friday tutorials. I am currently free on the following half days: - Sat 13 am + pm - Sun 14 am + pm - Fri 19 pm - Sat 20 am + pm - Sun 21 am + pm JP Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > Shall we hold an NMRG meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy? See > <http://www.comsoc.org/confs/noms/2002/index.html> for more details on > NOMS 2002. Perhaps Luca can help us with some of the logistics if > we do an NMRG meeting in Italy before or after NOMS 2002? > > I guess that many folks will be at NOMS anyway so it might be a good > opportunity to do some additional work. Let me know what you think and > whether you have any particular topics you want to put on the agenda. > > /js Return-Path: <owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Received: by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) id PAA08540 for nmrg-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:41:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from hoemail1.firewall.lucent.com (hoemail1.lucent.com [192.11.226.161]) by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA08535; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:41:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from nl0006exch001h.wins.lucent.com (h135-85-76-62.lucent.com [135.85.76.62]) by hoemail1.firewall.lucent.com (Switch-2.1.3/Switch-2.1.0) with ESMTP id g0FEerL18134; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:40:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by nl0006exch001h.nl.lucent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <C4Q0NZWJ>; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:40:52 +0100 Message-ID: <2413FED0DFE6D111B3F90008C7FA61FB0E4ADE91@nl0006exch002u.nl.lucent.com> From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com> To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>, Network Management Research Group <nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Subject: RE: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 15:40:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Precedence: bulk I am not so sure yet that I will be at NOMS. Bert > -----Original Message----- > From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:29 PM > To: Network Management Research Group > Subject: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy > > > > Shall we hold an NMRG meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy? See > <http://www.comsoc.org/confs/noms/2002/index.html> for more details on > NOMS 2002. Perhaps Luca can help us with some of the logistics if > we do an NMRG meeting in Italy before or after NOMS 2002? > > I guess that many folks will be at NOMS anyway so it might be a good > opportunity to do some additional work. Let me know what you think and > whether you have any particular topics you want to put on the agenda. > > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder University of Osnabrueck > <schoenw@inf.uos.de> Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Science > Phone: +49 541 969 2483 Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 Osnabrueck, Germany > Fax: +49 541 969 2770 <http://www.informatik.uni-osnabrueck.de/> > > Return-Path: <owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Received: by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) id MAA06784 for nmrg-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:29:08 +0100 (MET) Received: from haerke.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (IDENT:root@haerke.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.34.84]) by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA06779; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:29:07 +0100 (MET) Received: (from schoenw@localhost) by haerke.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0FBT7I00618; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:29:07 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:29:07 +0100 Message-Id: <200201151129.g0FBT7I00618@haerke.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> X-Authentication-Warning: haerke.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de: schoenw set sender to schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de using -f From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> To: Network Management Research Group <nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Subject: [nmrg] meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy Sender: owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Precedence: bulk Shall we hold an NMRG meeting next to NOMS 2002 in Italy? See <http://www.comsoc.org/confs/noms/2002/index.html> for more details on NOMS 2002. Perhaps Luca can help us with some of the logistics if we do an NMRG meeting in Italy before or after NOMS 2002? I guess that many folks will be at NOMS anyway so it might be a good opportunity to do some additional work. Let me know what you think and whether you have any particular topics you want to put on the agenda. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder University of Osnabrueck <schoenw@inf.uos.de> Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Science Phone: +49 541 969 2483 Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 Osnabrueck, Germany Fax: +49 541 969 2770 <http://www.informatik.uni-osnabrueck.de/> Return-Path: <owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Received: by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) id QAA01883 for nmrg-outgoing; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:13:27 +0100 (MET) Received: from haerke.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (IDENT:root@haerke.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de [134.169.34.84]) by mumm.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA01878; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:13:24 +0100 (MET) Received: (from schoenw@localhost) by haerke.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g03FDNg09534; Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:13:23 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:13:23 +0100 Message-Id: <200201031513.g03FDNg09534@haerke.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> X-Authentication-Warning: haerke.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de: schoenw set sender to schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de using -f From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> To: jp.martin-flatin@ieee.org CC: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de In-reply-to: <3C23D743.6050908@ieee.org> (jp.martin-flatin@ieee.org) Subject: Re: [nmrg] SNMP over TCP References: <3C23D743.6050908@ieee.org> Sender: owner-nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Precedence: bulk >>>>> J P Martin-Flatin writes: JP> I lost track of the SNMP over TCP proposal when the discussions JP> moved to the IETF SNMPv3 Working Group. What is the current JP> status? Has it been submitted to the IETF for publication as an JP> informational or experimental RFC? Internet-Draft JP> <draft-irtf-nmrg-snmp-tcp-06.txt> has now expired. Should we JP> renew it? I discussed this with Bert at the last IETF. The conclusion was to spin another version (there are some edits regarding the question who initiates a connection for notifications) and to submit the document for publication as Experimental RFC. I hope this can be done quickly. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Technical University Braunschweig <schoenw@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> Dept. Operating Systems & Computer Networks Phone: +49 531 391 3289 Muehlenpfordtstr. 23, 38106 Braunschweig, Germany Fax: +49 531 391 5936 <http://www.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/~schoenw/>
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