Re: [nmrg] [Supa] New SUPA charter

[Georgios Karagiannis <[e-mail]>]

Dear Kostas,

Thank you very much for the provided comments on the SUPA charter!

Please see in line!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kostas Pentikousis [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:02 PM
> To: Parviz Yegani; Georgios Karagiannis
> Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Subject: AW: [Supa] New SUPA charter
> 
> Hi Georgios,
> 
> I second Parviz, it’s much better after the recent revisions. A few comments
> wrt to the version at https://github.com/liushucheng/SUPA/wiki/SUPA-Charter
> 
> Do we need this phrase: "to shift the balance [of costs?] in their favor"?
> SUPA should not be a zero-sum game. Everyone should benefit (vendors,
> operators, admins, users, new service providers).
[>] 
Georgios: Agree with you, that everyone should benefit (vendors,
operators, admins, users, new service providers).
We need to rephrase this text. 

> 
> Do we REALLY have to capitalize POLICY, UNIFIED, SHARED, and AUTOMATICALLY? :)
[>] 
Georgios: not really, we just used them to make the emphasize how the SUPA abbreviation relates to the charter description. I assume that we can mark these words using another method, e.g., ""

> 
> The paragraph starting with "Some IETF working groups..." may be useful to
> motivate chartering the WG, but I'm not sure it should be part of the final
> charter.
[>] 

Georgios: Not sure, how we should handle this issue. We used the paragraph to show the relation with other IETF WGs.

> 
> Finally, the last paragraphs starting with "SUPA will work on defining... "
> and ending with the section on Work Items has a bit of overlap with the
> remaining text (Work Items, Deliverables). 
[>] 

Georgios: Thanks,  we will try to remove the overlap as much as possible.

I have a few more editorial
> comments (e.g. s/started work relating/started work related), but we can
> handle that offline.
[>] 

Georgios: thank you very much!

Best regards,
Georgios

> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Kostas
> 
> PS: I took the liberty to CC NMRG as some folks in that group may have an
> interest in this line of work.
> 
> | Von: Parviz Yegani [mailto:[e-mail]]
> | Gesendet: Samstag, 27. September 2014 06:07
> | An: Georgios Karagiannis
> | Cc: [e-mail]
> | Betreff: Re: [Supa] New SUPA charter
> |
> | Great job Georgios. The charter is well written and nicely structured.
> | The notion of "network boxes", however, is a bit confusing. I'd rather
> | to replace it with "network nodes" or "network components". I also
> | have some other minor editorial comments. I will send it in a separate
> | email. It's good that you mentioned the SUPA WG (once formed) will
> collaborate with other relevant groups within IETF (NETCONF, Yang doctors, ..)
> to ensure consistency and avoid divergence or perhaps any possible duplication
> of work.
> 
> | Thanks,
> | Parviz