[nmrg] My review of: draft-schoenw-sming-lessons-00.txt
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In general, I think this is a quite useful document. For novice readers (those not directly involved with some of the SMIng history), it might be helpful if a few examples are included in various subsections of section 3. Nits/typos: - section 1 started in the late 1999 and concluded with the publication of the s/the// or s/1999/1990s/ probably the 1st one. - section 2 of SMIv2, the current data modeling language for management information bases. Primarily, its partial dependence on ASN.1 and a s/management information bases/the management information base/ or s/base/base modules/ - sect 2 you may want to expand acronyms when they are first used (like RAP, COPS-PR, SPPI) - sect 2 Working Group on COPS-PR and SPPI emerged in 1999/2000, SMIng was split into two parts: a core data definition language (defined in this document) and protocol mappings to allow the application of core (defined in this document) ?? You mean in RFC3780 I guess? seems you copied some (or all) if this from RFC3780 - sect 3.2, 4th bullet document, it becomes more natural to support course grained atomic s/course/coarse/ ? - sect 3.3, rd bullet sharing properties may be implicit in the naming system used in once protocol mapping while they must be explicit in other s/once/one/ ?? - sect 3.9 language supports a suitable versioning model and that it established s/established/establishes/ ? modeling language may be less of an issue since such information can often be maintained in revision control systems and automatically places into comments where needed. s/places/placed/ ? - sect 3.10 supports language extensions, it should be possible to gradually introduction of new language features. s/introduction of/introduce/ ?? - sect 3.11 Once way to define a new data modeling language is to start from an s/Once/One/ >From IDNITS: == Unused Reference: 'RFC3084' is defined on line 422, but no explicit reference was found in the text Bert Wijnen > -----Original Message----- > From: nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > [mailto:nmrg-bounces@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de] On Behalf Of Juergen > Schoenwaelder > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 10:36 PM > To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > Subject: [nmrg] [Internet-Drafts@ietf.org: > I-DACTION:draft-schoenw-sming-lessons-00.txt] > > Hi, > > at the last NMRG meeting in Prague, during the general > discussion, the question was raised what the NMRG can > contribute to the data modeling discussion. I then made a > comment that it might help if we can document technical > lessons learned from the SMIng project. > > Below is a first attempt to write down some lessons learned. > I am looking for your feedback, both technically and in more > general whether such a document is of any value to be > published (and if so in which form). > > /js > > ----- Forwarded message from Internet-Drafts@ietf.org ----- > > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: > From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org > Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:50:02 -0400 > Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-schoenw-sming-lessons-00.txt > Precedence: list > Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org > Errors-To: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line > Internet-Drafts directories. > > > Title : Lessons Learned from the SMIng Project > Author(s) : J. Schoenwaelder > Filename : draft-schoenw-sming-lessons-00.txt > Pages : 12 > Date : 2007-6-18 > > A data modeling language for network management protocols called > SMIng was developed within the Network Management Research Group of > the Internet Research Task Force over a period of several years. > This memo documents some of the lessons learned during the project > for consideration by designers of future data modeling > languages for > network management protocols. > > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schoenw-sming-lessons-00.txt > > To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to > i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in > the body of > the message. > You can also visit > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce > to change your subscription settings. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the > username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. 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- [nmrg] [Internet-Drafts@ietf.org: I-D ACTION:draf… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- [nmrg] My review of: draft-schoenw-sming-lessons-… Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- [nmrg] Re: My review of: draft-schoenw-sming-less… Juergen Schoenwaelder