Re: [NSIS] Message Looping in GIMPS
Xiaoming Fu <fu@cs.uni-goettingen.de> Sat, 20 March 2004 09:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: [NSIS] Message Looping in GIMPS
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Hi, Hancock, Robert wrote: > ok - we should distinguish between > > *) easy to add later - doesn't change the rest of the protocol > processing rules > > *) hard to add later - it's mainly useful when a high percentage of > the nodes implement it but a lot have been deployed without it > > i think the route recording function matches both these. i agree > with the debugging aspect being important, and important from the > start (i don't believe the qos-nslp needs that have been mentioned > actually need route recording themselves, i write something about that > later). > > i'd be very happy to see someone define a 'diagnostics NSLP' > which could even become a MUST/SHOULD to implement along > with GIMPS (apart from anything else, it would give us a > non-trivial NSLP to play with). there are probably other > diagnostic functions that are also needed (some sort of e2e > echo, for example). Earlier we had an attempt with a simple "traceroute", described in http://user.informatik.uni-goettingen.de/~fu/paper/draft-fu-ccamp-traceroute-00.txt http://user.informatik.uni-goettingen.de/~fu/paper/IETF-fu-ccamp-traceroute.pdf (presentation slides at IETF#57 - CCAMP WG) We are currently prototyping it. If interested we would be glad to work with the team and extend it towards diagnostics NSLP. Regards, Xiaoming _______________________________________________ nsis mailing list nsis@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis
- [NSIS] Message Looping in GIMPS Hancock, Robert
- Re: [NSIS] Message Looping in GIMPS Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: [NSIS] Message Looping in GIMPS john.loughney
- RE: [NSIS] Message Looping in GIMPS sven.van_den_bosch
- Re: [NSIS] Message Looping in GIMPS Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: [NSIS] Message Looping in GIMPS Hancock, Robert
- Re: [NSIS] Message Looping in GIMPS Xiaoming Fu
- RE: [NSIS] Message Looping in GIMPS Hancock, Robert