RE: [NSIS] RE: normative/informative references
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Subject: RE: [NSIS] RE: normative/informative references
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Hi all, If I were to split the references, I would do it as follows. This is a suggestion, your milage may vary. (note - the two normative documents are documents that I think are needed to understand why certain decisions have been made in the framework). John Normative 2 Brunner, M., "Requirements for Signaling Protocols", draft-ietf- nsis-req-09.txt (work in progress), August 2003 7 Tschofenig, H., "RSVP Security Properties", draft-ietf-nsis-rsvp- sec-properties-02.txt (work in progress), June 2003 Non-Normative 1 Braden, R., L. Zhang, S. Berson, S. Herzog, S. Jamin, "Resource ReSerVation Protocol (RSVP) -- Version 1 Functional Specification", RFC 2205, September 1997 3 Tschofenig, H. and D. Kroeselberg, "Security Threats for NSIS", draft-ietf-nsis-threats-02.txt (work in progress), June 2003 4 Chaskar, H. (editor), " Requirements of a Quality of Service (QoS) Solution for Mobile IP", RFC 3583, September 2003 5 Swale, R. P., P. A. Mart, P. Sijben, S. Brim, M. Shore, "Middlebox Communications (midcom) Protocol Requirements", RFC 3304, August 2002 6 Manner, J., X. Fu, P. Pan, "Analysis of Existing Quality of Service Signaling Protocols", draft-ietf-nsis-signalling-analysis- 02.txt (work in progress), June 2003 8 Katz, D., "IP Router Alert Option", RFC2113, February 1997 9 Partridge, C., A. Jackson, "IPv6 Router Alert Option", RFC 2711, October 1999 10 Baker, F., C. Iturralde, F. Le Faucheur, B. Davie, "Aggregation of RSVP for IPv4 and IPv6 Reservations", RFC 3175, September 2001 11 Rescorla, E. and B. Korver, "Guidelines for Writing RFC Text on Security Considerations", RFC 3552, July 2003 12 Tschofenig, H., M. Buechli, S. Van den Bosch, H. Schulzrinne, "NSIS Authentication, Authorization and Accounting Issues", draft- tschofenig-nsis-aaa-issues-01.txt (work in progress), March 2003 13 Berger, L., D. Gan, G. Swallow, P. Pan, F. Tommasi, S. Molendini, "RSVP Refresh Overhead Reduction Extensions", RFC2961, April 2001 14 Ji, P., Z. Ge, J. Kurose, D. Townsley, "A Comparison of Hard-State and Soft-State Signaling Protocols", Computer Communication Review, Volume 33, Number 4, October 2003 15 Floyd, S., "Congestion Control Principles", RFC 2914, September 2000 16 Apostolopoulos, G., D. Williams, S. Kamat, R. Guerin, A. Orda, T. Przygienda, "QoS Routing Mechanisms and OSPF Extensions", RFC 2676, August 1999 17 Knight, S., D. Weaver, D. Whipple, R. Hinden, D. Mitzel, P. Hunt, P. Higginson, M. Shand, A. Lindem, "Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol", RFC2338, April 1998 18 Heijenk, G., G. Karagiannis, V. Rexhepi, L. Westberg, "DiffServ Resource Management in IP-based Radio Access Networks", Proceedings of 4th International Symposium on Wireless Personal Multimedia Communications-WPMC'01, September 9 - 12, 2001 19 Manner, J., A. Lopez, A. Mihailovic, H. Velayos, E. Hepworth, Y. Khouaja, "Evaluation of Mobility and QoS Interaction", Computer Networks, Volume 38, Issue 2, 5 February 2002, pp 137-163 20 Johnson, D., C. Perkins, J. Arkko, "Mobility Support in IPv6", draft-ietf-mobileip-ipv6-24.txt (work in progress), June 2003 21 Trossen, D., G. Krishnamurthi, H. Chaskar, J. Kempf, "Issues in candidate access router discovery for seamless IP-level handoffs", draft-ietf-seamoby-cardiscovery-issues-04.txt (work in progress), October 2002 22 Kempf, J., "Problem Description: Reasons For Performing Context Transfers Between Nodes in an IP Access Network", RFC3374, September 2002 23 Srisuresh, P. and M. Holdrege, "IP Network Address Translator (NAT) Terminology and Considerations", RFC2663, August 1999 24 Nordmark, E., "Stateless IP/ICMP Translation Algorithm (SIIT)", RFC2765, February 2000 25 Rosenberg, J., J. Weinberger, C. Huitema, R. Mahy, "STUN - Simple Traversal of User Datagram Protocol (UDP) Through Network Address Translators (NATs)", RFC3489, March 2003 26 Terzis, A., J. Krawczyk, J. Wroclawski, L. Zhang, "RSVP Operation Over IP Tunnels", RFC 2746, January 2000 27 Braden, R., D. Clark, S. Shenker, "Integrated Services in the Internet Architecture: an Overview", RFC 1633, June 1994 28 Westberg, L., Csaszar, A., Karagiannis, G., Marquetant, A., Partain, D., Pop, O., Rexhepi, V., Szabo, R., Takacs, A., "Resource Management in Diffserv (RMD): A Functionality and Performance Behavior Overview", Seventh International Workshop on Protocols for High-Speed networks - PfHSN 2002, 22 - 24 April 2002 29 Ferrari, D., A. Banerjea, H. Zhang, "Network Support for Multimedia - A Discussion of the Tenet Approach", Berkeley TR-92- 072, November 1992 30 Nichols, K., V. Jacobson, L. Zhang, "A Two-bit Differentiated Services Architecture for the Internet", RFC 2638, July 1999 31 Brunner, M., M. Stiemerling, M. Martin, H. Tschofenig, H. Schulzrinne, "NSIS NAT/FW NSLP: Problem Statement and Framework", draft-brunner-nsis-midcom-ps-00.txt (work in progress), June 2003 32 Aoun, C., "NSIS Network Address Translator implications", draft- aoun-nsis-nat-imps-01.txt (work in progress), March 2003 > -----Original Message----- > From: ext Hancock, Robert [mailto:robert.hancock@roke.co.uk] > Sent: 16 October, 2003 16:19 > To: Roland Bless > Cc: nsis@ietf.org > Subject: [NSIS] RE: normative/informative references > > > hi roland, > > my view is that even the requirements doc is not normative - > you don't need to understand the requirements document to > 'implement' the framework (whatever 'implement' means in this > context). you might want to read the requirements document > to understand why the framework addresses the problems it > does (i.e. the requirements are informative). > > in other words, my view is that the framework has no > normative references. but i'm waiting for w.g. chair guidance > on that. > > cheers, > > r. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Roland Bless [mailto:bless@tm.uka.de] > > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 14:23 > > To: Hancock, Robert > > Cc: nsis@ietf.org > > Subject: normative/informative references > > > > > > Hi Robert, > > > > On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:29:30 +0100 "Hancock, Robert" > > <robert.hancock@roke.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > some people have asked whether they can still make last call > > > comments on the mailing list on this draft. the answer is: > > > yes (in which case I will enter them myself). the tracking > > > tool is intended to be a convenience for the editor and anyone > > > else trying to disentangle N parallel conversations, it's not > > > intended to restrict the discussion in any way. > > > > Mainly an editorial related comment. > > > > The tracking tool lists as open issue: > > ] Deferred from v3: > > ] > > ] References should be split normative and informative > > ] (according to some criteria, presumably). > > ] > > ] We need to decide which in-progress WG documents to refer to > > ] as background (e.g. midcom and qos NSLP drafts?) > > > > I'd like at least to give a hint to the RFC editor's criteria below. > > According to my perception of the distinction between normative and > > informative references (from the definition below), there are > > nearly no > > normative references in the framework (except for the > > requirements doc). > > > > Quoting from http://www.rfc-editor.org/policy.html#policy.refs: > > Normative references specify documents that must be read to > understand > > or implement the technology in the new RFC, or whose > > technology must be > > present for the technology in the new RFC to work. An informative > > reference is not normative; rather, it only provides additional > > information. For example, an informative reference might provide > > background or historical information. Informative references are not > > required to implement the technology in the RFC. > > > > Regards, > > Roland > > > > _______________________________________________ > nsis mailing list > nsis@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis > _______________________________________________ nsis mailing list nsis@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis
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