Re: [Ntp] ntpv5 requirements

Dieter Sibold <dsibold.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 15 February 2023 19:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ntp] ntpv5 requirements
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> Am 15.02.2023 um 11:09 schrieb Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>:
> 
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 08:34:23AM +0100, Dieter Sibold wrote:
>> PTB enhanced all its public facing NTP servers with NTS. We observe that NTS traffic is increasing but slowly. In case of PTB the amount is smaller than 1% of the total traffic.
> 
> If you don't mind sharing, what is the ratio of "Authenticated NTP
> packets" to "NTS-KE connections accepted" in the serverstats report on
> your servers?

I shall ask our operational staff.

> 
>> Hence it should be safe for the NIST to enable NTS also. Beside, if the amount of traffic is going to be a problem the NTP and NTS service can also be provided by FPGA; see for example Netnod’s NTS service.
> 
> If you care about minimizing costs, FPGAs don't seem to be well suited
> for implementing NTS. See this (very interesting) presentation from
> Christer:
> 
> https://www.netnod.se/nts/nts-in-a-fpga-christer-weinigel-netnod-meeting-2022
> 
> It's an interesting project, but those FPGAs are quite expensive. It
> seems to me you can get much better performance/cost with common
> x86-64 CPUs.

I agree. And for the majority of server the x86-64 CPUs will more than be sufficient. But for extrem cases like the NIST it might be solution. This might be more expensive than standard hardware but I suppose the majority of metrology institutes could justify higher costs because in many cases they are legally entrusted to disseminate time.
> 
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> Miroslav Lichvar
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