[Ntp] Antw: I-D Action: draft-stenn-ntp-leap-smear-refid-02.txt

"Ulrich Windl" <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> Tue, 26 March 2019 07:16 UTC

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Subject: [Ntp] Antw: I-D Action: draft-stenn-ntp-leap-smear-refid-02.txt
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>>> <internet-drafts@ietf.org> schrieb am 26.03.2019 um 01:41 in Nachricht
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> A New Internet‑Draft is available from the on‑line Internet‑Drafts
directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Network Time Protocol WG of the IETF.
> 
>         Title           : Network Time Protocol Leap Smear REFID
>         Author          : Harlan Stenn
> 	Filename        : draft‑stenn‑ntp‑leap‑smear‑refid‑02.txt
> 	Pages           : 5
> 	Date            : 2019‑03‑25
> 
> Abstract:
>    Leap Seconds are part of UTC.  NTP timestamps are based on POSIX
>    timestamps, which require each day to have exactly 86,400 seconds per
>    day.  Some applications and environments choose to "smear" leap
>    second corrections over a period that can last up to 24 hours' time,
>    and implement NTP servers that offer smeared time to clients asking
>    them for the time.
> 
>    Both NTP clients and operators have no current way to tell if an NTP
>    server is offering leap‑smeared time or not.  This is a problem.

What about "...eared time or not, causing problems."?
Does it make sense to distinquish between clients and operators? I mean most
RFCs do not deal with problems humans may have: If the client (software) is
fixed, the operator should be happy, too ;-)


> 
>    Similarly, an NTP server may choose to offer leap‑smeared time to
>    clients that do not appear to know that a leap event is in‑process.
>    This is a problem.

Maybe add the kind of problem to the abstract: The frequency correction may
get confused, and an additional leap second might be applied in non-smear-aware
clients.

> 
>    This proposal offers a mechanism that provides a simple and clean
>    solution to problems, by giving a way that clients (and operators)
>    can trivially ask for leap‑smeared time and detect a server that is
>    offering leap‑smeared time.

The more often I read about that, the less is like the "smear" term. Is
another maybe more technical term possible?

Regards,
Ulrich

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> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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> 
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