Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-ntp-packet-timestamps-08

Ian Swett <ianswett@google.com> Tue, 03 March 2020 09:10 UTC

Return-Path: <ianswett@google.com>
X-Original-To: ntp@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ntp@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF9D3A0FF3 for <ntp@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Mar 2020 01:10:37 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -17.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-17.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, ENV_AND_HDR_SPF_MATCH=-0.5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_DEF_SPF_WL=-7.5] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=google.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iKwENnrUcvAg for <ntp@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 3 Mar 2020 01:10:35 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-wm1-x329.google.com (mail-wm1-x329.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::329]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 663A83A1BA6 for <ntp@ietf.org>; Tue, 3 Mar 2020 01:10:35 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-wm1-x329.google.com with SMTP id j1so555541wmi.4 for <ntp@ietf.org>; Tue, 03 Mar 2020 01:10:35 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=id6W5dO6SpXuWX2nZGdqPrwOzPg0JP90E7RwoYqjxow=; b=peNlKx1KIOeoR0MziESjSYP3tY+5HFUGgOGFreajtEyHCL19tUjBxz3THCanZHpUu0 fWQcTaChcB1gTYJlkR6tEfxLbn8UKfps1FurKINT8UI7mZLMyxVfdj3oQchtZOELqQRk 6F4ebSWdDTJ3MJzGTBNsyHGR0/pEkqhOBIQ153nHYTE1dE59NXYqj2pHy3OdZCCr7uCG SuciBslSkDNcgLZBaDxLq8xXI9DeVnSTrSH1ZOqPUoZ3XqCiIAGtE5MmHSI0l9Hu347z CnKIiA3lvkppcKTOjnDMjdjsLC3vKkjDW4sFn9V/uPz65DthJm6FbHqSHazvp5oe9XfI NDHA==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=id6W5dO6SpXuWX2nZGdqPrwOzPg0JP90E7RwoYqjxow=; b=gxlsHIc52/yP3MLy94OrDASGTLI0ZrzaLmr0+5hl0WLfa0kK++NfEvCk+vdKybn8YQ KsUlrHeU2DNfS+RzmSDuCkYh8oiKKDzV6kxD79gkjOXptUxcdCPRA+K37mLAKFjkWuXd p40U1RD7slbd3eDZHjrVa2kn15B2MyOtRBGasyuEhO0sNCfZVP1qLxsdQFTlTLJucqRN kO5IWHP1uA3RjwkwAs7dZsO254DlHSPUi0RzvwSzvLElxZli8chSll9VJwHr8xy8LJe1 tQTxmJaBTkiu4q9DracZz1+IbkD59mJ/f9nMgroVf/h2rZ0T0FtUDac1gQgCZhwM+YTD YegA==
X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ3aIbHRBCsNimxmL9xAh88QH9IxBDFguWHMaHXyDWouQ0z1fdM0 lum+UHaUCzjVzYlL+FeCcfB7nrvRsRFbnHAhNY4ZNA==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vvezoQUOptnPwVqcHiQ9Pw1nWD2uNsSjO5by2P4Wa/6/IDO4X/Fr2GifT075EUfQes+djBo7iDneX/J9I8CSSA=
X-Received: by 2002:a1c:4b0f:: with SMTP id y15mr3287460wma.87.1583226633437; Tue, 03 Mar 2020 01:10:33 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <25708_1583167660_5E5D38AC_25708_855_1_158316762892.27374.16780761185123723332@ietfa.amsl.com> <5E5E02AC020000A100037808@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
In-Reply-To: <5E5E02AC020000A100037808@gwsmtp.uni-regensburg.de>
From: Ian Swett <ianswett@google.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2020 04:10:19 -0500
Message-ID: <CAKcm_gNj41TrUVr_Cdvc8XkgLSZGkw5VVQi+cZxxQpZdgRmWTA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de>
Cc: tsv-art@ietf.org, draft-ietf-ntp-packet-timestamps.all@ietf.org, last-call@ietf.org, "ntp@ietf.org" <ntp@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001636b2059fefad9f"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ntp/B4tr-lTZ9nWEZTHnF3I2iJ9JtzQ>
X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 04 Mar 2020 08:04:55 -0800
Subject: Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-ntp-packet-timestamps-08
X-BeenThere: ntp@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: <ntp.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ntp>, <mailto:ntp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ntp/>
List-Post: <mailto:ntp@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ntp-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ntp>, <mailto:ntp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2020 09:10:37 -0000

"could" is fine by me.  I was pointing out the potential confusion, but I'm
not committed to my particular text proposal.

On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:09 AM Ulrich Windl <
Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> wrote:

> >>> Ian Swett via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> schrieb am 02.03.2020 um
> 17:47 in
> Nachricht
>
> <25708_1583167660_5E5D38AC_25708_855_1_158316762892.27374.16780761185123723332@i
> tfa.amsl.com>:
>
> [...]
> > Section 9, Security Considerations
> >
> > The sentence beginning with "Timestamps can be spoofed or modified..."
> > implies
>
> What about a simple "could" instead of "can"? Actually I see no problem
> with the original sentence as long it doesn't read "Timestamps are spoofed
> and modified..."
>
> [...]
>
> Regards,
> Ulrich
>
>
>