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[Ntp] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Last Call: Status Change of NTPv2 and NTPv3 to Historic

"Windl, Ulrich" <u.windl@ukr.de> Thu, 05 December 2024 09:07 UTC

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From: "Windl, Ulrich" <u.windl@ukr.de>
To: Daniel Franke <dfoxfranke@gmail.com>, Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com>
Thread-Topic: [EXT] [Ntp] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Last Call: Status Change of NTPv2 and NTPv3 to Historic
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Subject: [Ntp] Re: [EXT] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Last Call: Status Change of NTPv2 and NTPv3 to Historic
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Hi!

I still think that these old RFC have some interesting information inside that is missing in more recent RFCs on the same topic.
So I might agree to “historic, but not really obsolete” 😉

Kind regards,
Ulrich Windl

From: Daniel Franke <dfoxfranke@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 2:12 AM
To: Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: Brian Haberman <brian@innovationslab.net>; last-call@ietf.org; NTP WG <ntp@ietf.org>
Subject: [EXT] [Ntp] Re: [Last-Call] Re: Last Call: Status Change of NTPv2 and NTPv3 to Historic

I agree: 5905 needs a bis before it should be considered for advancement. I wouldn't opposed advancing a well-written bis, but I'd prefer to to ship an NTPv5, let it bake as a proposed standard for a decade, and then revisit the issue.

On Wed, Dec 4, 2024, 20:07 Erik Kline <ek.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:ek.ietf@gmail.com>> wrote:

Is it also reasonable to consider advancing 5905 to Internet Standard?

If the NTP wg wanted to consider it that could make some sense.

I'm not 100% sure we could do that with a simple status change document, though.  There are several errata [1], and we might have to go the route of producing a -bis that addresses them (most of them could be solved by removing the embedded source code, but ... still).

[1] https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/rfc5905
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