Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Minutes from IETF 108 NTP WG session
Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> Mon, 03 August 2020 12:12 UTC
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> (D)get_res: smallest delta is 0.000001514 > (D)get_res: smallest delta is 0.000000030 The first looks a little slow to me. The second is typical of Linux on a reasonably modern Intel CPU. There is a mechanism for reading the clock without doing a syscall. man vdso for more info. There is a "clocks" program in ntpsec/attic/ On recent Intel: res avg min dups CLOCK 1 23 22 CLOCK_REALTIME 1000000 7 1000012 -11 CLOCK_REALTIME_COARSE 1 20 21 CLOCK_MONOTONIC 1 22 27 CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW 1 20 23 CLOCK_BOOTTIME The -11 in the dups column means that all but 3 samples got the same time as the previous sample. Histogram: CLOCK_REALTIME, 1 ns per bucket, 1000000 samples. ns hits 19 177480 20 360015 21 423042 22 37224 23 76 24 46 25 42 26 45 27 50 28 60 1920 samples were bigger than 28. Fedora on a Pi 3 in 64 bit mode. res avg min dups CLOCK 1 77 52 CLOCK_REALTIME 10000000 42 9999942 -3 CLOCK_REALTIME_COARSE 1 69 52 CLOCK_MONOTONIC 1 75 52 CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW 1 69 52 CLOCK_BOOTTIME Histogram: CLOCK_REALTIME, 1 ns per bucket, 1000000 samples. ns hits 52 647881 53 58686 104 244716 105 48709 157 2 208 1 209 2 3 samples were bigger than 2551. Note the histogram takes big jumps. The hardware clock ticks at 52 ns. Actually, a bit slower since a fraction of the ticks report 53 rather than 52. Fedora on a Pi 3, 32 bit mode: No vdso, so it's pretty slow. res avg min dups CLOCK 1 891 833 CLOCK_REALTIME 1000000 749 1000001 -717 CLOCK_REALTIME_COARSE 1 906 833 CLOCK_MONOTONIC 1 896 833 CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW 1 1229 1145 CLOCK_BOOTTIME Histogram: CLOCK_REALTIME, 1 ns per bucket, 1000000 samples. ns hits 833 289745 834 145467 885 326491 886 235960 937 294 938 280 989 60 990 84 1041 55 1042 100 1464 samples were bigger than 1042. Again, the steps are all multiples of 52 (or a bt over). -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.
- [Ntp] Minutes from IETF 108 NTP WG session Dieter Sibold
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Minutes from IETF 108 NTP WG se… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Minutes from IETF 108 NTP W… Miroslav Lichvar
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Minutes from IETF 108… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Minutes from IETF… Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Minutes from IETF… Hal Murray
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Minutes from IETF… Hal Murray
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Minutes from IETF… Miroslav Lichvar