[Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: I‑D Action: draft‑ietf‑ntp‑mode‑6‑cmds‑11.txt
Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> Wed, 16 February 2022 11:01 UTC
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Subject: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: I‑D Action: draft‑ietf‑ntp‑mode‑6‑cmds‑11.txt
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>>> Harlan Stenn <stenn@nwtime.org> schrieb am 16.02.2022 um 04:07 in Nachricht <4f29532c-281c-3002-c968-d121ba7fa03b@nwtime.org>: > Brian, > > On 2/15/2022 9:57 AM, internet‑drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> >> A New Internet‑Draft is available from the on‑line Internet‑Drafts directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Network Time Protocols WG of the IETF. >> >> Title : Control Messages Protocol for Use with Network > Time Protocol Version 4 >> Author : Brian Haberman >> Filename : draft‑ietf‑ntp‑mode‑6‑cmds‑11.txt >> Pages : 22 >> Date : 2022‑02‑15 >> >> Abstract: >> This document describes the structure of the control messages that >> were historically used with the Network Time Protocol before the >> advent of more modern control and management approaches. These >> control messages have been used to monitor and control the Network >> Time Protocol application running on any IP network attached >> computer. The information in this document was originally described >> in Appendix B of RFC 1305. The goal of this document is to provide >> an updated description of the control messages described in RFC 1305 >> in order to conform with the updated Network Time Protocol >> specification documented in RFC 5905. > > Yup... > >> The publication of this document is not meant to encourage the >> development and deployment of these control messages. This document >> is only providing a current reference for these control messages >> given the current status of RFC 1305. > > I'm curious why you write the preceding paragraph. Maybe it's like alcohol: Government does not want you to drink, but people like to do so from time to time ;-) > > Mode 6 is still the preferred way to handle monitoring and control of an > NTP daemon. Mode 6 was designed to be a vendor‑neutral way to > accomplish this. > > The only implementation I know of for NTP+SNMP is ntpsnmpd, in the > Reference Implementation, and that daemon translates SNMP in to mode 6 > directives. > > The NTP Yang Data Model is still a draft document, and from what I have > seen there is no reference implementation of it. If and when the NTP > Project provides this capability, it will very likely be done the same > way ‑ using mode 6 messages to the NTP daemon. > >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft‑ietf‑ntp‑mode‑6‑cmds/ >> >> There is also an htmlized version available at: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft‑ietf‑ntp‑mode‑6‑cmds‑11 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft‑ietf‑ntp‑mode‑6‑cmds‑11 >> >> >> Internet‑Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org::internet‑drafts >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ntp mailing list >> ntp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ntp >> > > ‑‑ > Harlan Stenn <stenn@nwtime.org> > http://networktimefoundation.org ‑ be a member! > > _______________________________________________ > ntp mailing list > ntp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ntp
- [Ntp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds-11.t… internet-drafts
- Re: [Ntp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds-… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds-… Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds-… Harlan Stenn
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: I‑D Action: draft‑ietf‑ntp‑… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: I‑D Action: draft‑ietf‑… Miroslav Lichvar
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: I‑D Action: draft‑ietf‑ntp‑… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds-… Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds-… Hal Murray
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: I‑D Action: draft‑ietf‑… Karen O'Donoghue
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: I‑D Action: draft‑ietf‑… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds-… Danny Mayer