Re: [Ntp] [TICTOC] WGLC draft-ietf-tictoc-ptp-enterprise-profile

Wojciech Owczarek <wojciech@owczarek.co.uk> Mon, 16 July 2018 10:15 UTC

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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 11:15:31 +0100
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From: Wojciech Owczarek <wojciech@owczarek.co.uk>
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All,

I might have asked this question before and I think I know the answer, but just to re-state this:

This being an IEEE 1588 profile, a recommendation to set logMessagePeriod in the enterprise profile delay response header to be the configured master delayReq period, rather than the 0x7F as per the standard for any unicast message, is out of the question?

This would allow the delay message interval to be autodiscovered like it is with multicast delayReq/resp. I have seen this done in the field, just like some slave implementations will try unicast delayReq first, and use multicast if no response received. 0x7F makes sense as an indication that the interval should be negotiated, but not where unicast is used without negotiation. This only adds an extra variable to the otherwise automatic slave configuration.

I have not been keeping up with the protocol revision work, but does anyone know if P1588 was able to tackle this?

Regards,
Wojciech

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Subject: Re: [TICTOC] [Ntp] WGLC draft-ietf-tictoc-ptp-enterprise-profile

Neither do I, thanks a lot, Tal!

 

BR

  Heiko

 

 

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On 04.07.18, 23:34  "TICTOC im Auftrag von Douglas Arnold" <tictoc-bounces@ietf.org im Auftrag von doug.arnold@meinberg-usa.com> wrote:

 

I have no objections to Tal's suggestions.  

 

--- Doug

 

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 3:27 AM, Tal Mizrahi <tal.mizrahi.phd@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, 

 

I believe this draft is almost ready for publication, with a couple of comments below.

 

A couple of comments:

- The section "Forbidden PTP Options" should include also unicast discovery and unicast negotiation (mentioned in previous sections).

- In the "Security Considerations" section - I suggest to add a general comment: "General security considerations of time protocols are discussed in [RFC7384]".

 

Thanks,

Tal.

 

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 6:35 AM, Karen O'Donoghue <odonoghue@isoc.org> wrote:

Folks,

 

This email begins a quick followup WGLC for the following draft:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tictoc-ptp-enterprise-profile/

 

This document has been around for a long time, and it has been aligned with the updates planned to IEEE 1588. Please respond on the mailing list with your recommendation on publication of this document along with any final comments that you may have. This WGLC will close on Wednesday 11 July 2018. 

 

Regards,

Karen

 

 

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