[Ntp] Re: [EXT] [EXT] Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on SG17 agreement on XSTP.epoch"
Danny Mayer <mayer@pdmconsulting.net> Mon, 27 July 2026 13:42 UTC
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On 7/27/26 2:50 AM, Windl, Ulrich wrote: > Yes, actually the size of time_t is 8 bytes, but the point is how many programs assign it to a 32-bit "int", or use time calculations like that still. Actually that's incorrect. It depends on both the O/S and the compiler being used and I've seen instances where time_t is only 4 bytes. The second part of your comment is true and I've also seen instances of that. Danny > Kind regards, > Ulrich Windl >
- [Ntp] New Liaison Statement, "LS on SG17 agreemen… Liaison Statement Management Tool
- [Ntp] Re: New Liaison Statement, "LS on SG17 agre… Hal Murray
- [Ntp] Re: [EXT] [EXT] Re: New Liaison Statement, … Windl, Ulrich
- [Ntp] Re: [EXT] [EXT] Re: New Liaison Statement, … Danny Mayer
- [Ntp] Re: [EXT] Re: Re: [EXT] [EXT] Re: New Liais… Windl, Ulrich
- [Ntp] Re: [EXT] Re: Re: [EXT] [EXT] Re: New Liais… Danny Mayer