Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] Discussion summary - 1/10/2017

David Mozes <davidm@mellanox.com> Tue, 17 January 2017 14:31 UTC

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Hi Sami  ,
Thanks  for the draft

1)      Can you elaborate on the trace _id option  ?

2)      Extension TLV Ordering in Geneve implementations



“We would propose a text such as, TLV processing may not be easy

   processed in TCAM. There may be some critical information such as

   secure hash that must get processed at lowest latency. A control

  plane can guarantee certain TLV ordering, to allow hardware capable

   of processing one or few options TLV in TCAM, to have the those TLVs

   first. “



I believe we didn’t agree on that . The only think  we agree is text regarding TLV 0 we already have



Thx

David

From: nvo3-dt-encap [mailto:nvo3-dt-encap-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sami Boutros
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Subject: Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] Discussion summary - 1/10/2017

Please find attached the initial draft.

Thanks,

Sami
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Subject: Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] Discussion summary - 1/10/2017


Yes I did, my mistake, sorry about it.

On Jan 11, 2017 11:00 AM, "Rajeev Manur" <rajeev.manur@broadcom.com<mailto:rajeev.manur@broadcom.com>> wrote:
Hi Pankaj,

Thanks for the notes. I participated in yesterday's discussion as well. Looks like you missed my name on the participants list.

Thanks!
--Rajeev

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> On Jan 11, 2017, at 7:25 AM, Pankaj Garg <ipankajg@gmail.com<mailto:ipankajg@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Thanks for attending the call. My curated notes are below.
>
> Participants:
>    Erik Nordmark (Arista)
>    Michael Smith (Cisco)
>    Ignas Bagdonas (Equinix)
>    Ilango Ganga (Intel)
>    Sami Boutros (VMware)
>    Tal Mizrahi (Marvell)
>    David Mozes (Mellanox)
>    Pankaj Garg (Microsoft)
>
> 1. We discussed the text for requiring at minimum 64-bytes to be
>   supported in Geneve. There is consensus that we should propose a text
>   to Geneve authors on minimum option length requirement. This would
>   ensure there is common minimum support from all compliant Geneve
>   implementations.
>
> 2. We discussed the idea of TLV0 further and upon discussion it was
>   realized that it adds more confusion without any significant gain.
>   Hence design team agreed to drop this from the proposed changes.
>
> 3. We agreed that we should put some text either in Geneve draft or
>   design team report around supporting option ordering in Geneve
>   implemnentations. The idea is that if a hardware can process options
>   in TCAM but it can only process the first TLV, then control plane in
>   a deployment can use this capability by ensuring a specific TLV is
>   always the first one in the packet. We need someone to write this
>   text.
>
> 4. We discussed split-NVE case and agreed that we need to ask WG whether
>   in split-NVE case, options needs to be carried in other packet
>   formats such as 802.1q and if they do, then would carrying Geneve
>   frame in 802.1q be needed? Based on WG recommendation, an ETYPE
>   and/or IP protocol number can be allocated for Geneve as well. Erik
>   has agreed to write text around this question. Thanks Erik.
>
> 5. Sami has volunteered to write the initial draft for design team
>   report. This report would contain our rationale for proposing a
>   specific encapsulation and few specific extension use cases and how
>   propose encapsulation meet those requirements. Thanks Sami.
>
> 6. Pankaj would send one extension use case around diagnostics. We would
>   check with Tom on extension around security. Those will probably be
>   two use cases we would cover in our design report.
>
> Please let me know if I missed anything.
>
> Thanks,
> Pankaj (on behalf of NVO3 Encap Design Team)
>
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