Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft
AshwoodsmithPeter <Peter.AshwoodSmith@huawei.com> Wed, 23 May 2012 14:57 UTC
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From: AshwoodsmithPeter <Peter.AshwoodSmith@huawei.com>
To: Yiqun Cai <yiqunc@microsoft.com>, "LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)" <marc.lasserre@alcatel-lucent.com>, "nvo3@ietf.org" <nvo3@ietf.org>
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> The volume of IP multicast traffic in today's data center network is not "0". Whether it would go towards 0 or away from it is a good > question. I'm not sure our speculation of its moving direction will help to determine the MUST/SHOULD/MAY requirement of the service > models. A detailed analysis is more useful and IETF can certainly help here. .. > Yiqun http://tools.ietf.org/pdf/draft-mcbride-armd-mcast-overview-01.pdf The above draft goes into an overview of multicast uses in the DC. I assume its far from exhaustive but it's a good start. They describe 3 broad non ARP/ND/BUM cases, but presumably there are many more which would be useful to add to this draft. (1) - VM sourcing multicast data to a host outside the DC, like IPTV, stock quotes etc. (2) - VRRP - so two routers etc. deciding who is active/standby (3) - Cluster maintenance - Ganglia, Windows Server heartbeats. Etc. Both (2) and (3) are really signalling control functions taking advantage of multicast, while (1) is presumably not sinking any of that traffic within the DC. There are applications out there using multicast when what they really want is fast reliable distirbuted signalling and/or PUB/SUB and I think we should be taking a forward looking view here in finding a way to provide that in addition to whatever the legacy applications require of IP/Ethernet multicast. Peter
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
- [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft Adrian Farrel
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft AshwoodsmithPeter
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft Dino Farinacci
- [nvo3] Resubmitted with new and compliant name RE… Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- Re: [nvo3] Resubmitted with new and compliant nam… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft Larry Kreeger (kreeger)
- [nvo3] nvo3 DP Reqs: TTL handling Larry Kreeger (kreeger)
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft Yiqun Cai
- [nvo3] nvo3 DP Reqs: integrated bridging and rout… Larry Kreeger (kreeger)
- Re: [nvo3] nvo3 DP Reqs: integrated bridging and … Yiqun Cai
- Re: [nvo3] nvo3 DP Reqs: TTL handling LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
- Re: [nvo3] nvo3 DP Reqs: integrated bridging and … LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
- Re: [nvo3] nvo3 DP Reqs: integrated bridging and … LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
- Re: [nvo3] nvo3 DP Reqs: integrated bridging and … Lucy yong
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft Yiqun Cai
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft Lizhong Jin
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft AshwoodsmithPeter
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft AshwoodsmithPeter
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft Tina TSOU
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft AshwoodsmithPeter
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft AshwoodsmithPeter
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft Carlos Pignataro
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft AshwoodsmithPeter
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft Bitar, Nabil N
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft Bitar, Nabil N
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft Lizhong Jin
- Re: [nvo3] New dataplane requirements draft AshwoodsmithPeter
- Re: [nvo3] nvo3 DP Reqs: TTL handling Anoop Ghanwani
- Re: [nvo3] nvo3 DP Reqs: TTL handling LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)