Re: [nvo3] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip-08.txt

Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> Tue, 08 March 2016 23:14 UTC

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On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 5:18 AM, Saumya Dikshit (sadikshi)
<sadikshi@cisco.com> wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> VM speaking up using RARP, is discounted as one of the potential cases ?
>

Saumya, please suggest some text.

Regards,

Behcet
> Thanks
> Saumya.
>
> From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, March 7, 2016 at 4:02 PM
>
> To: sadikshi <sadikshi@cisco.com>
> Cc: "B. Khasnabish" <vumip1@gmail.com>, Matthew Bocci
> <matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com>, "nvo3@ietf.org" <nvo3@ietf.org>, Benson
> Schliesser <bensons@queuefull.net>, sarikaya <sarikaya@ieee.org>, Alia Atlas
> <akatlas@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [nvo3] Fwd: New Version Notification for
> draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip-08.txt
>
> Saumya,
>
> Either you’re using static IP addresses, in which case this is a
> configuration error and needs to be manually corrected, or you’re using
> dynamic IP addresses, in which case if the VM receives a GARP reply because
> of a duplicated IP address, it then uses DHCP to get a new one.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 1:45 AM, Saumya Dikshit (sadikshi)
> <sadikshi@cisco.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> Is it assumed that IP address will be known and not dynamically
>> re-assigned  and all VM’s are capable of sending out GARP at boot-up.
>> I agree RARP may not be new, but  I think still used.
>> Whats happens in a case where VM is migrated to DC-network (may be across
>> geographies and NVO domains) where the IP is already assigned
>> to another VM/entity
>>
>> Thanks
>> Saumya.
>>
>> From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
>> Date: Monday, March 7, 2016 at 2:12 PM
>> To: sadikshi <sadikshi@cisco.com>
>> Cc: "B. Khasnabish" <vumip1@gmail.com>, Matthew Bocci
>> <matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com>, "nvo3@ietf.org" <nvo3@ietf.org>, Benson
>> Schliesser <bensons@queuefull.net>, sarikaya <sarikaya@ieee.org>, Alia Atlas
>> <akatlas@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [nvo3] Fwd: New Version Notification for
>> draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip-08.txt
>>
>> Saumya,
>>
>> No, Gratuitous ARP is used to update the other ARP tables when a VM moves.
>> RARP was used to request your own IP address when you don’t know it, but is
>> obsolete, and anyway, the VM already knows its IP address (see section 8 in
>> the draft).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 9:31 PM, Saumya Dikshit (sadikshi)
>> <sadikshi@cisco.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Authors of draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip,
>>>
>>> Do we need to take care of cases in which VM speaks with Reverse-ARP and
>>> not Gratuitous-ARP ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Saumya.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "B. Khasnabish" <vumip1@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Monday, March 7, 2016 at 7:13 AM
>>> To: Matthew Bocci <matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com>, "nvo3@ietf.org"
>>> <nvo3@ietf.org>, Benson Schliesser <bensons@queuefull.net>
>>> Cc: sarikaya <sarikaya@ieee.org>, Andrew Malis <agmalis@gmail.com>, Alia
>>> Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: [nvo3] Fwd: New Version Notification for
>>> draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip-08.txt
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> We have addressed all of the outstanding issues, comments,
>>> and suggestions in the latest version (ver-08) of this
>>> draft on Virtual Machine Mobility
>>> (VMM, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip/)
>>> and look forward to your support for WG adoption and subsequent
>>> publication.
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Best.
>>>
>>> Bhumip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>>> Date: Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 7:28 PM
>>> Subject: New Version Notification for
>>> draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip-08.txt
>>> To: Bhumip Khasnabish <vumip1@gmail.com>, Linda Dunbar
>>> <Linda.dunbar@huawei.com>, Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya@ieee.org>, Frank Xia
>>> <xiayangsong@huawei.com>, Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A new version of I-D, draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip-08.txt
>>> has been successfully submitted by Behcet Sarikaya and posted to the
>>> IETF repository.
>>>
>>> Name:           draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip
>>> Revision:       08
>>> Title:          Virtual Machine Mobility Protocol for Overlay Networks
>>> Document date:  2016-03-03
>>> Group:          Individual Submission
>>> Pages:          11
>>> URL:
>>> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip-08.txt
>>> Status:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip/
>>> Htmlized:
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip-08
>>> Diff:
>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-sarikaya-nvo3-vmm-dmm-pmip-08
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>    This document describes a virtual machine mobility protocol commonly
>>>    used in data centers built with overlay-based network virtualization
>>>    approach.  It is based on using a NVA-NVE protocol to update ARP
>>>    table or neighbor cache entries at the NVA and the source NVEs
>>>    tunneling in-flight packets to the destination NVE after the virtual
>>>    machine moves from source NVE to the destination NVE.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>>> submission
>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>>
>>> The IETF Secretariat
>>>
>>>
>>
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