Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing?
Onyx Raven <onyxraven@gmail.com> Thu, 05 February 2009 21:39 UTC
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From: Onyx Raven <onyxraven@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing?
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Sorry, I got ahead of myself about the signature/signing - METHOD&RESOURCE&PARAMETERS, hashed with one of the accepted methods (RSA-SHA1, HMAC-SHA1, PLAINTEXT). On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Onyx Raven <onyxraven@gmail.com> wrote: > So, thats what I was trying to get at. I agree that the excepted > token consumer-request -> sp-auth -> consumer-access process should be > HTTP based as it is defined now. It was really more about the > consumer -> sp request signing (with delegated access), which like > below, could be XMPP, IRC, proprietary game protocols, etc. At a > basic level, signature signing is defined as > METHOD&RESOURCE&PARAMETERS (where parameters are key/value pairs > structured in www-form-urlencoded style). > > But like I said before, as long as the core standard has acceptable > wording for other consumer -> sp request protocols to hook into, thats > what matters there. I just wanted to be sure we didn't get locked > into something we might want alternatives to in the future. > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:21 PM, John Kemp <john@jkemp.net> wrote: >> On Feb 5, 2009, at 3:52 PM, Seth Fitzsimmons wrote: >> >>> >>> XMPP (XEP-0235) assumes that tokens are exchanged out of band, leaving >>> that mechanism in HTTP. >> >> Right. The point being that there are at least two potentially-independent >> parts to OAuth - a set of signature mechanisms (RSA-SHA1, HMAC-SHA1, >> PLAINTEXT), and an HTTP-based protocol for token exchange. >> >> [...] >> >>> >>> To me, the most useful aspect of OAuth when applied to other protocols >>> is a clearly defined way to generate signatures given constituent >>> components. >> >> I think it's certainly reasonable to suggest that the signature mechanisms >> be defined so as to be useful in contexts other than HTTP. Which apparently >> already worked well-enough for XMPP with OAuth 1.0. >> >> - johnk >> >
- [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Onyx Raven
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Tom Scavo
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Seth Fitzsimmons
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? John Kemp
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Onyx Raven
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Onyx Raven
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Will Norris
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Seth Fitzsimmons
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Hubert Le Van Gong
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Eran Hammer-Lahav
- Re: [oauth] OAuth only for HTTP request signing? Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)