Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens
Torsten Lodderstedt <torsten@lodderstedt.net> Thu, 16 September 2010 05:41 UTC
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 07:39:14 +0200
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Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens
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Am 16.09.2010 um 05:53 schrieb Andrew Arnott <andrewarnott@gmail.com>: > The user agent flow works for native apps that can host a web browser. It works pretty well in my experience. > Would like to see support for refresh tokens in this flow? > Secrets on native apps are good! The key is (no pun intended) that the secret not ship with the app. Each client should register for its own client_id and secret when it is installed on the client machine. > Yes, native apps can obtain a key when they are installed on a device (Not part of the core). What does it help with respect to the Client authentication? Regards, Torsten. > -- > Andrew Arnott > "I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." - S. G. Tallentyre > > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Marius Scurtescu <mscurtescu@google.com> wrote: > I don't see why would you use the user-agent flow with a native > application? Maybe the spec should suggest only the web server flow. > The device flow would also work, but that's not part of the core spec. > > Marius > > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt > <torsten@lodderstedt.net> wrote: > > I'm wondering whether it makes sense to allow for the issuance of refresh > > tokens by the user-agent flow. > > > > Background of my considerations is the development of applications on mobile > > devices (apps :-)). The draft suggests to either use the web server or the > > user agent flow for the integration of such applications with an OAuth > > authorization server. For sake of user experience, I would expect mobile > > applications to use refresh tokens instead of sending the user through the > > authorization on every application start. I also would assume that the > > mobile client does not use a client secret because it cannot really protect > > it from recovery. Instead, token theft could be encountered by replacing > > refresh tokens with every request to the tokens endpoint. > > > > This scenario is feasable with the web server flow but not with the > > user-agent flow. This is because the later does only support the issuance of > > access tokens. In previous discussions this has been motivated by the weaker > > security (missing client authentication) of the user-agent flow. But as > > pointed out above, the web server flow can (and will be) used w/o client > > secret, too. > > > > So why don't we allow for the issuance of refresh tokens by the user-agent > > flow? > > > > regards, > > Torsten. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OAuth mailing list > > OAuth@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth > > > _______________________________________________ > OAuth mailing list > OAuth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth >
- [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens Andrew Arnott
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens Kris Selden
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens Marius Scurtescu
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens Luke Shepard
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens Kris Selden
- Re: [OAUTH-WG] User-Agent flow and refresh tokens Torsten Lodderstedt