Re: [OAUTH-WG] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with DISCUSS)

OK - I'll start prefixing my text with "Mike> ".

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From: Stephen Farrell [mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie] 
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 8:49 AM
To: Mike Jones; Alissa Cooper; The IESG
Cc: oauth-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token@tools.ietf.org; oauth@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with DISCUSS)

Mike,

I cannot tell which is your text and which not.

Can you please use a better quoting style? These docs are going to be a total PITA to handle otherwise.

Thanks,
S.

On 02/10/14 16:14, Mike Jones wrote:
> Responding to the DISCUSS below…
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> Subject: Alissa Cooper's Discuss on 
> draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with DISCUSS)
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> draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: Discuss
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> DISCUSS:
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> == Section 12 ==
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> "A JWT may contain privacy-sensitive information.  When this is the
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>    case, measures must be taken to prevent disclosure of this
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>    information to unintended parties."
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> It seems to me that this should be a normative MUST, particularly in light of the fact that claims are being defined that are meant to directly identify users (e.g., sub) and other claims defined here or later could do so as well.
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> There seems to be debate whether a 2119 language should be used other than when describing protocol requirements.  Jim Schaad (the JOSE chair) believes that they shouldn’t and these documents have followed that convention.
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> "One way to achieve this is to use
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>    an encrypted JWT.  Another way is to ensure that JWTs containing
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>    unencrypted privacy-sensitive information are only transmitted over
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>    encrypted channels or protocols, such as TLS."
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> Since sensitive JWTs should be protected from both intermediary 
> observation and from being sent to unintended recipients, I would
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> suggest:
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> One way to achieve this is to use an encrypted JWT and authenticate the recipient. Another way is to ensure that JWTs containing unencrypted privacy-sensitive information are only transmitted over encrypted channels or protocols that also support endpoint authentication, such as TLS.
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> Thanks for this suggested language.  We can incorporate something like that.
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