Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter
Ben Laurie <ben@algroup.co.uk> Thu, 09 August 2001 14:55 UTC
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Dominikus Scherkl wrote: > > Dear openPGP Working Group, > > Sorry, that I supposed my suggestions for an ECC-extension > to the openPGP message format to be property of this WG while > it is only a personal draft. > > Now for my reasons, why this WG should include > <draft-scherkl-openpgp-ecc-00.txt> to its charter: > > I think it is time to fulfill the promise this WG made by > reserving space for ECC and ECDSA, if we want to keep this > standard as wide used as it is. > > Long time has gone since we reserved IDs for ECC algorithms > and many applications now support ECC but can't provide it in > an openPGP context. So they uses other standards like S/MIME > or proprietary protocols to provide these algorithms to those > who want to enjoy their advantages. > > Different sets of ECC parameters have now been tested long > enough to outsource all trivialy (and many not so trivial) > cases that won't provide sufficient security, so ECC becomes > a "well known" algortithm. > In this light the somewhat slightly advantages "short keys" > and "high performance" gain weight due to the lack of > disadvantages. > > Therefore I'm convinced we can include it in the standard > without high probability to compromise our security goals. > > The attached draft is thought to be fully conform with the > openPGP format and even some other standards, and it defines > all elliptic curves so that no greater changes in the > future are expected (it keeps no further gaps in the ECC > definiton as some older suggestions have done). > If it isn't, I'm sure we can make it with small efford. > > At all, the openPGP standard can only gain by adding this > draft to the charter. You can't add it to the _standard_ because of restrictive licensing. I guess Informational RFCs are possible, but they don't make me happy - essentially the WG is doing free work, both technical and marketing, for the owner(s) of the patents. Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html
- Reasons to include ECC to our charter Dominikus Scherkl
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter Ben Laurie
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter Florian Weimer
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter Peter Gutmann
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter Ben Laurie
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter Bodo Moeller
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter Ben Laurie
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter John W Noerenberg II
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter Jon Callas
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter Ben Laurie
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter vedaal
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter Jon Callas
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter Ben Laurie
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter Jon Callas
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter John W Noerenberg II
- Re: Reasons to include ECC to our charter Bodo Moeller