Re: [openpgp] Possible to define a common key format for LibrePGP and OpenPGP-IETF?

[Justus Winter <[e-mail]>]

Hi Werner :)

Werner Koch <[e-mail]> writes:

> On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 12:14, Justus Winter said:
>
>> That compromise is affectionately called
>> draft-ietf-openpgp-crypto-refresh-12.
>
> Sorry, that was not the compromise.  The compromise was found in 2021.
> After that the remaining design team changed large parts again without
> the consent of people from GnuPG or Ribose.

It is a good thing that we were keeping notes all the time.  In fact,
someone went over all the notes and created a handy table that we can
consult now:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/openpgp/9-WktrFNuZVYZVwlAKl0J56k5Vc/

We can see that GnuPG was present at 32 of the 46 design team meetings,
or 70%.  Ribose was present at 17/46 meetings, roughly 37%.  We can also
see that GnuPG was more consistently represented in the latter phase of
the design team work when NIIBE took over from you.

> In fact our later remarks were never taken into account and thus GnuPG
> and Ribose basically stopped participating in discussion.

It seems to me that you are conceding that you were participating in the
process, but chose not to raise concerns back then when you had the
chance to influence the compromise.  That seems like a poor strategy in
retrospect, but attacking the process and the people who put a lot of
thought and energy into it is a lot worse.

Best,
Justus