Re: How to Calculate Signatures?
Ian G <iang@systemics.com> Sun, 03 April 2005 19:01 UTC
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Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2005 19:40:31 +0100
From: Ian G <iang@systemics.com>
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Konrad Rosenbaum wrote: > On Sunday 03 April 2005 18:41, Ben Laurie wrote: > >>Oh, yes. This left me with an unresolved issue: how does one use >>SHA{256,384,512} with DSA (which requires a 160 bit hash). > > > Simple: you don't. DSA was designed to be used with SHA-1, which is 160 bit. > Since SHA-1 is theoretically broken (practically will probably follow in a > few months) one should see what the NIST makes of it. Supplanting a broken > hash with another hash doesn't make much sense with DSA, since it does not > contain the ID of the hash (as PKCS#1 does for RSA) - so any attacker could > find a collission with the broken hash and then simply change the hash ID > in the signature packet. I would agree with that. There was some discussion on the user's list about an attempt at producing a code path to use SHA256... which seemed to confuse the issue. Would it be a good idea to put in a statement explicitly limiting OpenPGP's view of DSS to be SHA1 only? And add a comment perhaps that in the light of weaknesses in SHA1, that RSA with a fatter digest be used instead as a workaround? (SHA1 will remain a current issue until "something is done". When it was debated a month back, did we reach a consensus to do something about it? I got the feeling that we didn't, but I might be just remembering one side.) iang -- News and views on what matters in finance+crypto: http://financialcryptography.com/
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