[OPS-AREA]Re: Proposals for ICMP Extensions: Operational Motivations & Rationale

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Hi all,

Many thanks to Ron for leading the discussion in the opsarea session about ICMP and future policy use and all the great inputs shared on the mic and chat.

I recorded in my notes that Andrew, Joe, Jen (?), and Tobias offered to help Ron drafting the update to BCP189. Thanks.

As BCP189 was published in OPS as AD sponsored, I suggest that the future update be submitted to opsawg. However, I'm open to other options and I will discuss this further with INT ADs.

Cheers,
Med

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Objet : [OPS-AREA]Proposals for ICMP Extensions: Operational Motivations & Rationale

Hi OPS/INT,

There are many proposals to extend ICMP/ICMPv6 with new features, but we lack on overall discussion about which operational issues some of the proposals are solving. There are also questions about deployabiliy of some of these extensions.

With that in mind, we will be scheduling a slot in IETF#126 OPSAREA Meeting to expose these ICMP-related work to the OPS community by providing a big picture of various extensions, highlighting the operational issues addressed by the extensions, and discuss deployability challenges of some of these extensions. This is also an opportunity to seek for feedback from operators. The discussion may also assess if some guidance about extending ICMP/ICMPv6, while taking into account deployment matters, may be useful.

Ron kindly accepted to lead that discussion (thanks!). Feel free to use this thread to share your thoughts or reach out Ron if you want to contribute to the material that will be presented by Ron.

Cheers,
Med


  *   Reading material:

     *   draft-ietf-intarea-rfc8335bis
     *   draft-ietf-intarea-icmp-exten-hdr-len
     *   draft-ietf-intarea-extended-icmp-nodeid
     *   draft-ietf-6man-icmpv6-reflection
     *   draft-ietf-6man-icmpv6-ioam-conf-state
     *   draft-bonica-intarea-icmp-exten-hdr-len
     *   draft-jags-intarea-icmp-ext-underlay-info
     *   draft-pignataro-icmp-enviro-info
     *   draft-varhal-6man-icmp-srv6-vpn
     *   draft-mitchell-intarea-rfc5837bis
     *   draft-many-intarea-icmp-mp
     *   draft-yl-savnet-icmp-extension
     *   draft-xbm-intarea-icmp-query
     *   draft-liu-6man-icmp-verification
     *   draft-ali-6man-srv6-vpn-icmp-error-handling
     *   draft-xu-intarea-challenge-icmpv6
     *   draft-xu-intarea-vulnerabilities-forged-icmp
     *   draft-xu-intarea-challenge-icmpv4

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