Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-dahm-tacacs-tls13-00.txt

["Joe Clarke (jclarke)" <[e-mail]>]

I was saying that when I read Alan’s comments it seemed like he wanted for T+ protocol changes and extensibility added to the tacacs-tls13 draft whereas my understanding of the original intent of this work (from when the informational T+ draft was brought to this WG) was in line with your proposal (i.e., T+ as it is over TLS).

No additional action was asked of the authors in my email.  _MY_ action is to now call for adoption.

Joe

From: heasley <[e-mail]>
Date: Thursday, July 7, 2022 at 16:58
To: Joe Clarke (jclarke) <[e-mail]>
Cc: heasley <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] <[e-mail]>, Douglas Gash (dcmgash) <[e-mail]>, Andrej Ota <[e-mail]>, Thorsten Dahm <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] I-D Action: draft-dahm-tacacs-tls13-00.txt
Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 07:09:14PM +0000, heasley:
> Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 03:05:33PM +0000, Joe Clarke (jclarke):
> > [JC] As chair, I will call for adoption of this work by the WG.  I read Alan’s recent reply and understand how he feels concerning this approach to more of a straight TLS encap around T+.  I would like to hear what others in the WG think.</chair>
>
> Speaking for myself only; I might have misunderstood this point of Alan's
> and will have to review that email.  I think that the approach is
> straight-forward; start tls, once established, start tacacs, tacacs, end
> tacacs, end tls.  How much easier could it be.
>
> We did specify a few TLS constraints, that Alan questioned.  We're open to
> discussing those details, but I think we need input from more tls experts
> and believe this can occur after adoption.  IIRC, that was our response at
> the beginning of May when the composite draft was submitted.

Hey Joe.
We reviewed the emails and draft and have concluded that we do not
understand what you mean by "more of a straight TLS encap around T+."
The proposal is as I suggested above.

https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-dahm-tacacs-tls13-00.html

There is text or lack of regarding SNI, resumption ticket lifetime, and
0RTT data that Alan has commented about, but otherwise nothing unusual.
We believe the text is correct but are not TLS experts and think that
these can wait for adoption.

Please explain which part is not straight.  Are you perhaps refering to
a part of the other draft?

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dahm-opsawg-tacacs-security/

Thanks