Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-09
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Tue, 17 December 2019 12:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-09
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Dear all, After reviewing themeeting minutes <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-106-opsawg/>, I was a little bit puzzled. From my recollection, Joe and Frank had some good feedback on the draft. Also, in the minutes, I did not see any mention of Joe's feedback. And Frank's feedback on the draft is summarized as 4 words: "the scope is large" So I went back and reviewed the youtube video <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY-u8177wpU>. I support Frank's feedback that this document scope is too large: a mix of an inventory of what exists, a set of requirements, and specifications/framework. I'm wondering: what is the scope of this document? Before we clarify this, I don't think we should adopt this document. The OPSAWG chair questions at the end of the presentation were: Chair: How many of you have read this document? quite a lot. Chair: How many of you think this is a useful work and the working group could work on it? still many, 20+. I was waiting for the negative question but to my surprise, it never came... Chair: How many of you don't think ... If that question would have been asked, I would have come to mic. or at least raised my hand. It's important to make a distinction between the interest to solve those problems (I believe we have full agreement) and whether this document is a good starting point. I object to the latter, with the document in the current form. Regards, Benoit > > Hi WG, > > On IETF 106 meeting, wesaw predominant interest and support to this > draft, especially from operators. The authors then resolved all the > open issues. > > As requested by the authors, this email starts a 2 weeks working group > adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework-09. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework/ > > If you support adopting this document please say so, and please give > an indication of why you think it is important. Also please say if you > will be willing to review and help the draft. > > If you do not support adopting this document as a starting point to > work on, please say why. > > This poll will run until Dec 23.. > > Thanks, > > Tianran as co-chair > > > _______________________________________________ > OPSAWG mailing list > OPSAWG@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsawg
- [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsawg-i… Tianran Zhou
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Pedro Martinez-Julia
- [OPSAWG] 答复: WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… qinfengwei
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Giuseppe Fioccola
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… 吴畏虹
- [OPSAWG] R: WG adoption call for draft-song-opsaw… Cociglio Mauro
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… 신종윤님
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… chenhuan6@chinatelecom.cn
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Alexander L Clemm
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… daniel
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… 진재환/팀장
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Lizhenbin
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Huaimo Chen
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Haoyu Song
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Benoit Claise
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Tianran Zhou
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Benoit Claise
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Haoyu Song
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Haoyu Song
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Haoyu Song
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Haoyu Song
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Haoyu Song
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)
- Re: [OPSAWG] WG adoption call for draft-song-opsa… Haoyu Song