Re: [OPSAWG] [ippm] draft-spiegel-ippm-ioam-rawexport

Giuseppe Fioccola <giuseppe.fioccola@huawei.com> Tue, 19 March 2024 08:07 UTC

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From: Giuseppe Fioccola <giuseppe.fioccola@huawei.com>
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Hi Thomas, All,
I fully agree about the progress of draft-gfz-opsawg-ipfix-alt-mark and draft-spiegel-ippm-ioam-rawexport.
I also think OPSAWG is the right place for the IPFIX IE definitions and for the adoption of these documents.
IPPMers can surely help review since both AltMark and IOAM have been defined in IPPM.

Regards,

Giuseppe

From: ippm <ippm-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Thomas.Graf@swisscom.com
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Subject: [ippm] draft-spiegel-ippm-ioam-rawexport

Dear Justin, Dear OPSAWG and IPPM working groups

Thanks a lot for the presentation at IPPM. I believe that this work needs further refinement by defining also IPFIX entities for IOAM which allow a decomposition of each IOAM dimension fields, thus enabling IPFIX Flow Aggregation as described in RFC 7015 which is a requirement to scale out for IOAM DEX and Trace Option Type. I believe this should be performed after the working group adoption and me should move forward quickly since IOAM is now getting implemented by vendors and applied by operators.

While shepherding IPFIX at OPSAWG, I noticed that most discussions where around choosing the right data type and aligning with the IPFIX registry. Not so much about exposing the right dimensions from the data plane.

draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-telemetry is already adopted and well progressed at OPSAWG. I suggest that draft-spiegel-ippm-ioam-rawexport is being adopted together with draft-gfz-opsawg-ipfix-alt-mark. With that we are covering both Hybrid Type options developed at IPPM.

In order to pool the IPFIX entity definitions, I believe OPSAWG would be the best place to move with draft-spiegel-ippm-ioam-rawexport forward.

I would appreciate feedback from IPPM and OPSAWG wherever they share my opinion or not.

Best wishes
Thomas