Re: [OPSAWG] Request for review: draft-boydseda-ipfix-psamp-bulk-data-yang-model

draft-boydseda-ipfix-psamp-bulk-data-yang-model authors,

I'm busy reviewing this draft, and therefore I'm reviewing all related 
emails.
It's a little bit sad that Tom provided some feedback on Feb 7th and 
that this feedback is not taken into account in your March 9th version.
For ex, the I-D references, tentative structure

Regards, Benoit

On 07/02/2020 13:44, tom petch wrote:
> Trouble is, it is so big.  If I had a quiet week on a beach somewhere it would pass the time nicely.
>
> At a glance.
>
> Too many TBD; those in IANA Considerations  can be filled in now, ditto those in the YANG module - it is all standard stuff.
>
> The modules import and those imports lack reference statements.
>
> Several RFC are referenced but are not in the I-D References
> RFC5101
> RFC5102
> RFC4133
>
> Lots of features with a sort of Cartesian explosion ;  do we need features for TCP,UDP, SCTP?
>
> feature statements should have references
>
> prefix are intended to be short and easy to use; and consistent.  This seems lacking with ietf-bde for ipfix bulk data export but ietf-ipfix-packet-sampling for ietf ipfix packet sampling; the former is inconsistent with a lack of ipfix, the latter way too long.  Perhaps ipfix-ps and ipfix-bde; I do not think that the ietf is  needed.
>
> 6.3.1 'tentative structure'
>
> tom petch
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: OPSAWG <opsawg-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
> Sent: 22 January 2020 22:38
> To: opsawg@ietf.org; draft-boydseda-ipfix-psamp-bulk-data-yang-model.all@ietf.org; Paul Aitken; Gerhard Muenz; Benoit Claise
> Subject: [OPSAWG] Request for review: draft-boydseda-ipfix-psamp-bulk-data-yang-model
>
> Hi there all,
>
> Back in Nov 2018 Ignas agreed to AD sponsor this document. Directorate
> reviews were requested in Nov 2019[0], and two OpsDir reviews were
> supplied, both with the status "OPSDIR Last Call Review: Not Ready
> (partially completed)" :
> 1: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-boydseda-ipfix-psamp-bulk-data-yang-model-02-opsdir-lc-ersue-2019-12-01/
> 2: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-boydseda-ipfix-psamp-bulk-data-yang-model-02-opsdir-lc-clarke-2019-12-20/
> A third reviewer recently let us know that, due to other commitments /
> being over-committed  they no longer have the time to complete this
> review either.
>
> However, the reviewers all felt that additional review / discussion
> was in order, and so I'm politely asking / begging OpsAWG to review /
> discuss.
>
> >From the "Guidance on Area Director Sponsoring of Documents"
> (https://ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/area-director-sponsoring-documents/)
> :
> "The exact nature of the review within the IETF is not specified, but
> it is expected that documents be posted for review in the relevant WG
> mailing lists. Often no relevant mailing list exists, in which case
> area-specific or IETF main discussion list can be used. Individual
> reviewers, review teams, and review boards for specific topics can
> also be used. If no sufficient review has been obtained, the AD should
> solicit it explicitly."
>
> PSAMP (and IPFIX) is closed, and much of this discussion now occurs in
> OpsAWG. Joe (as one of the OpsAWG chairs) has agreed to let us use the
> OpsAWG list for this discussion / feedback, etc.
>
> To help jog people's memory, get the ball rolling, this was discussed
> at IETF 103:
> Minutes: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-103-opsawg/
> Video (link to start of preso):  https://youtu.be/PDVOfKqOb3Y?t=6680
>
> So, please, read the draft, and the reviews, and provide feedback here....
>
>
> I'd also like to sincerely thank Mehmet, Joe and Benoit for their
> (partial) reviews, and Gunter Van de Velde for organizing the OpsDir -
> they are incredibly helpful.
>
> W
> [0]: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-boydseda-ipfix-psamp-bulk-data-yang-model/history/
>
> --
> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
> idea in the first place.
> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
> of pants.
>     ---maf
>
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