Re: [OPSAWG] FW: New Version Notification for draft-opsawg-poweff-00.txt

"Marisol Palmero Amador (mpalmero)" <mpalmero@cisco.com> Thu, 02 November 2023 19:18 UTC

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From: "Marisol Palmero Amador (mpalmero)" <mpalmero@cisco.com>
To: Benoit Claise <benoit.claise=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "opsawg@ietf.org" <opsawg@ietf.org>
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Hi Benoit,
Thanks for your note.
I agree, we should include a note & reference to the EMAN RFC’s related work, as you pointed out, where there are similar concepts to some of the attributes that we define in POWEFF.

It is also my view, that Sustainability Insights draft enlarges the approach to cover sustainability concept vs Energy Management.

As part of the next steps, we are looking into extending POWEFF(YANG based), to be able to consume any sensor-related information, and this should include EMAN attributes, where we might end up with 1:1 relationship mapping.

Many thanks,
Marisol



From: Benoit Claise <benoit.claise=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Tuesday, 31 October 2023 at 15:28
To: Marisol Palmero Amador (mpalmero) <mpalmero@cisco.com>, opsawg@ietf.org <opsawg@ietf.org>
Cc: Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei) <gsalguei@cisco.com>, Jan Lindblad (jlindbla) <jlindbla@cisco.com>, Snezana Mitrovic (snmitrov) <snmitrov@cisco.com>, emile.stephan@orange.com <emile.stephan@orange.com>, Per Andersson (perander) <perander@cisco.com>, Esther Roure Vila (erourevi) <erourevi@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] FW: New Version Notification for draft-opsawg-poweff-00.txt
Hi Marisol,

Is there any link with this series of documents at https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/eman/documents/ ?
Granted, these are a little old. MIB and not YANG modules, but some concepts are similar.

Regards, Benoit
On 10/27/2023 7:07 PM, Marisol Palmero Amador (mpalmero) wrote:
Dear OPSA WG,

Earlier this week, we posted a new draft that introduces a data model for power and energy related metrics :
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-opsawg-poweff/


The focus is mainly on runtime information provided by power sensors, but also an extension to other related metrics and given attributes that will complement the representation of the energy consumed by the network device, implemented in hardware or software, as well as by specific network components.
This is a first-version approach where we see still challenges based on implementation.
Note: Some of those challenges are covered on Jan`s draft: draft-lindblad-tlm-philatelist<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lindblad-tlm-philatelist/>

Along with POWEFF draft, we’ve also updated the version of the Sustainability Insights draft:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-almprs-sustainability-insights/
where we introduced an updated architecture reference diagram, that provides a more structured view of the functional blocks that might be part of where those attributes and metrics might be produced, processed, visualized, etc. We also have reviewed and added Use Cases that such framework could drive.

We greatly appreciate your thoughts and comments.

Many thanks,
Marisol Palmero


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Date: Friday, 20 October 2023 at 17:45
To: Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei) <gsalguei@cisco.com><mailto:gsalguei@cisco.com>, Jan Lindblad (jlindbla) <jlindbla@cisco.com><mailto:jlindbla@cisco.com>, Marisol Palmero Amador (mpalmero) <mpalmero@cisco.com><mailto:mpalmero@cisco.com>, Snezana Mitrovic (snmitrov) <snmitrov@cisco.com><mailto:snmitrov@cisco.com>
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-opsawg-poweff-00.txt
A new version of Internet-Draft draft-opsawg-poweff-00.txt has been
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IETF repository.

Name:     draft-opsawg-poweff
Revision: 00
Title:    Power and Energy Efficiency
Date:     2023-10-20
Group:    Individual Submission
Pages:    37
URL:      https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-opsawg-poweff-00.txt
Status:   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-opsawg-poweff/
HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-opsawg-poweff


Abstract:

   This document motivates and specifies a data model to report power
   and energy efficiency of an asset.  As highlighted during the IAB
   workshop on environmental impacts
   (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-iab-ws-environmental-
   impacts-report-00), visibility is a very important first step
   (paraphrasing Peter Drucker's mantra of "You cannot improve what you
   don't measure").  During the workshop the need for standardized
   metrics was established, to avoid proprietary, double counting and
   even contradictory metrics across vendors.

   This Power and Energy Efficiency Telemetry Specification (POWEFF) is
   required to promote consistency across vendors and consumers, based
   on: 1.  The definition of datasets and attributes defining a common
   data model utilized by the standard calculation to yield power and
   energy efficiency value for any asset or network element.  2.  The
   standard calculations utilizing the specified datasets and attributes
   which will yield energy consumption and energy efficiency value for
   any asset or network element.

   The model provides information and data requirements for calculating
   the Power and Energy Efficiency for specific assets.  Assets can
   include hardware (physical or virtual), software, applications, or
   services.



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