[OPSAWG]Re: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13: Debugging TACACS+ over TLS

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Re-,

Sounds like a plan :-)

When that work is started, I'd recommend you set it under: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/bcp195.

For the specific tacacs+ case, citing BCP195 instead of RFC 9325 would allow us to inherit these guidelines in the future. 

Thank you.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com>
> Envoyé : mardi 26 novembre 2024 13:42
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
> Cc : Heikki Vatiainen <hvn@radiatorsoftware.com>; opsawg
> <opsawg@ietf.org>
> Objet : Re: [OPSAWG]Re: draft-ietf-opsawg-tacacs-tls13: Debugging
> TACACS+ over TLS
> 
> 
> On Nov 26, 2024, at 7:27 AM, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
> > I'm afraid that we need to handle this globally (e.g., in UTA
> WG), not for every application.
> 
>   I agree.
> 
>   I spoke with Eric Vyncke in Dublin, and explained that while
> RFC 9325 is good, RADIUS and TACACS+ were having similar issues
> with TLS.  i.e.. The TLS RFCs largely describe what TLS does, but
> are somewhat thin on how applications can use TLS.  The RADEXT WG
> has spent substantial time digging into a number of issues, and
> updating drafts with what we've found.
> 
>   His suggestion was the same as yours: This needs to be done in
> UTA.  He also pointed out that as someone involved in RADEXT, and
> as co-chair of UTA, I was the ideal person to write this
> document.
> 
>   The good news is that much of the necessary text is already in
> the RADEXT drafts, so perhaps the work isn't as large as it could
> have been,
> 
>   I'll try to find some time.
> 
>   Alan DeKok.

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