Re: [OPSAWG] Alexey Melnikov's Yes on draft-ietf-opsawg-mud-20: (with COMMENT)

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Tue, 17 April 2018 12:13 UTC

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To: Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-ietf-opsawg-mud@ietf.org, Joe Clarke <jclarke@cisco.com>, opsawg-chairs@ietf.org, opsawg@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] Alexey Melnikov's Yes on draft-ietf-opsawg-mud-20: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Alexey,


On 17.04.18 13:35, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
> Alexey Melnikov has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-opsawg-mud-20: Yes
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> 3.6.  systeminfo
>
>    This is a textual UTF-8 description of the Thing to be connected.
>    The intent is for administrators to be able to see a localized name
>    associated with the Thing.
>
> systeminfo is provided by the manufacturer (or whoever generated the MUD file),
> right? Why would it be *localized* for the administrator? Think of a
> manufacturer from China and a sysadmin in Russia.

Yes, that was a spurious leftover from earlier versions.  It is gone in
my copy.  I  do wish we could have done better at this, but with the
response Robert's review, I hope I can at least get a link that people
can copy into their browsers to actually find localized content.

>
> 3.13.  controller
>
>    This URI specifies a value that a controller will register with the
>    MUD controller.  The node then is expanded to the set of hosts that
>    are so registered.  This node may also be a URN.  In this case, the
>    URN describes a well known service, such as DNS or NTP.
>
> You don't list the DNS/NTP URNs until much later in the document. Please either
> add a forward reference or list them here.

Ok.  Will add forward reference.

And indeed the below are corrected in my copy.

Thanks for improving the work,

Eliot

>
> As per response from Eliot, my earlier comments should have been addressed in
> editor's copy:
>
> 16.4.  MIME Media-type Registration for MUD files
>
>    The following media-type is defined for transfer of MUD file:
>
>     o Type name: application
>     o Subtype name: mud+json
>     o Required parameters: n/a
>     o Optional parameters: n/a
>     o Encoding considerations: 8bit; application/mud+json values
>       are represented as a JSON object; UTF-8 encoding SHOULD be
>       employed.
>
> I am tempted to say "MUST be UTF-8 encoded".
>
>     o Security considerations: See Security Considerations
>       of this document.
>     o Interoperability considerations: n/a
>     o Published specification: this document
>
> Nit: IANA Media Type registration templates need to have fully qualified
> references. Use "[RFCXXXX]" instead of "this document" here, so that when the
> RFC is published, the registration template can be posted to IANA website and
> will have correct reference.
>
>     o Applications that use this media type: MUD controllers as
>       specified by this document.
>
> As above.
>
>     o Fragment identifier considerations: n/a
>     o Additional information:
>
>         Magic number(s): n/a
>         File extension(s): n/a
>         Macintosh file type code(s): n/a
>
>     o Person & email address to contact for further information:
>       Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>, Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com>
>
> I think Ralph's address is wrong in 2 places.
>
>     o Intended usage: COMMON
>     o Restrictions on usage: none
>     o Author:
>          Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
>          Ralph Droms <rdroms@cisco.com>
>     o Change controller: IESG
>     o Provisional registration? (standards tree only): No.
>
> UTF-8 needs to be a Normative reference (RFC 3629).
>
>
>