Re: [OPSAWG] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-opsawg-sbom-access-15: (with COMMENT)
Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> Mon, 24 April 2023 09:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-opsawg-sbom-access-15: (with COMMENT)
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Thank you Eric, please see below. On 24.04.23 10:53, Éric Vyncke via Datatracker wrote: > Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-opsawg-sbom-access-15: Yes > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ > for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsawg-sbom-access/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thank you for the work put into this document. > > Please find below some non-blocking COMMENT points (but replies would be > appreciated even if only for my own education). > > Special thanks to Win Wu for the shepherd's detailed write-up including the WG > consensus and the justification of the intended status. > > I hope that this review helps to improve the document, > > Regards, > > -éric > > # COMMENTS (non blocking) > > ## 'transparency' vs. 'sbom' > > This is probably due to historical reasons, but I find it strange to have the > YANG module named 'transparency' while this term does not appear in the > abstract. It is, and we can add some text clarify this. > > ## Abstract > > I am not a native English speaker, so I am probably outside of my expertise > here, but: > > * `automation is necessary to locate what software is running` should 'to > identify' or 'to list' be better ? * `to provide the locations of software > bills of materials (SBOMS) and to vulnerability information.` is there a verb > missing between 'to' and 'vulnerability' ? I must admit that I cannot parse > this sentence. I will eview the grammar. > ## Section 1 > > `we seek` who is the 'we' ? Fixed. > > s/the model is a discovery mechanism/the model can be used as a discovery > mechanism/ ? I.e., how can a model be a mechanism ? "the model is intended to facilitate discovery" > > In `report to administrators the state of a system.` "state" is rather vague, > can the state be qualified ? I.e., "security state" ? "state of any known vulnerabilities on a system" > > In the introduction of the 3 methods, the 2nd one (URI) is the only one having > a normative MUST. Is it on purpose that the two other methods do not have > normative language ? Could you be more specific? > > ## Section 6 > > `the endpoint SHOULD NOT provide unrestricted access by default` this is indeed > a key point as the SBOM can also be viewed as the list of open doors to the > device. I am really unsure how to fix this problem at all... > > I would also wish to have a mean to keep the SBOM information available for > years even after manufacturer bankruptcy ... I agree, and yet someone has to pay to keep the disks spinning, as it were. As a matter of pragmatics, this will have to be addressed market by market. There is no reason, for instance, that the model has to reside on manufacturing-owned gear, but then where it does reside might also go belly up. Those business models can, I think, be kinked out over time. Eliot
- [OPSAWG] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-opsawg-s… Éric Vyncke via Datatracker
- Re: [OPSAWG] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-opsa… Eliot Lear
- Re: [OPSAWG] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-opsa… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [OPSAWG] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-opsa… Eliot Lear