Re: [OPSAWG] CALL FOR ADOPTION: RADIUS Extensions for Encrypted DNS

[tom petch <[e-mail]>]

From: tirumal reddy <[e-mail]>
Sent: 16 September 2022 12:51

On Fri, 16 Sept 2022 at 16:54, <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Tom,

> <tp2>
> I was thinking that the IESG will complain at TLS being only 1.2,

Don't think so. Please see: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bofreq-dekok-bofreq-dekok-radius-extensions-and-security-00/.

Yes, TLS 1.2 can be continued to be used by existing protocols following the recommendations in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-uta-rfc7525bis-11.  The BCP allows implementations to use TLS 1.2 and encourages them to mitigate to TLS 1.3.

<tp3>
Well if the IESG approves that I-D (which it may or may not!).  I note that also in the uta work is an I-D for syslog ciphersuites where there is a post asking the WG what so say about TLS versions and one response from one active in the TLS WG is proposing TLS1.2 as MUST NOT.

I think it will depend on who is Security AD at the time.

Tom Petch
ps I have found a send button, for better or worse

-Tiru


Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : OPSAWG <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> De la part de tom petch
> Envoyé : vendredi 16 septembre 2022 12:13
> À : Joe Clarke (jclarke) <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
> Objet : Re: [OPSAWG] CALL FOR ADOPTION: RADIUS Extensions for
> Encrypted DNS
>
> From: Joe Clarke (jclarke) <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
> Sent: 15 September 2022 20:57
>
> <tp2>
> My ever helpful webmail just changed the layout, without warning,
> to make it much harder to use so while the content of my replies
> does not change, where they go may be somewhat random - currently
> I have 80 options but no send button
>
> <tp>
>
> RFC6614 is a Normative Reference.  This is Experimental and is
> TLS1.2 only
>
> JMC> Good point.  I don't think it needs to be normative for
> implementation of this work.
>
> <tp2>
> I was thinking that the IESG will complain at TLS being only 1.2,
> be it Informative or Normative.  I think that the TLS WG have
> created a mire with TLS1.3 being so different that adoption will
> be very slow so the real world of Enterprise will see 1.2 as  a
> MUST while the IESG sees 1.2 as NOT RECOMMENDED as we will be here
> for some time to come. (A bit like IPv4 and IPv6:-(
>
> Lots of mentions of TBAn with n from three to seven with 'see
> section 6.2' where there is no mention of them.
>
> JMC> I saw those, too and almost commented.  I think Qin may have
> mentioned it.  Instead of reusing the TBAs, the authors used
> Section numbers in the IANA considerations.  Using them as well
> would add clarity.
>
> <tp2>
>
> But are TBA3 et al. meant to be assigned by IANA?  If so , IANA
> should be told (good as IANA are as interpreting our sloppy work).
>
> Tom Petch
>
> Joe
>
>
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