Re: [OPSEC] Reminder about IPR relating to draft-gont-opsec-ipv6-nd-security-01

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Wed, 11 September 2013 17:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Reminder about IPR relating to draft-gont-opsec-ipv6-nd-security-01
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On Sep 11, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:

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> On Sep 11, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 09/11/2013 11:18 AM, Warren Kumari wrote:
>>> The authors of draft-gont-opsec-ipv6-nd-security-01 have asked for it
>>> to be adopted as a OpSec document -- we would like to check whether
>>> any claims of Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) on the document have
>>> not yet been disclosed.
>>> 
>>> Are you personally aware of any IPR that applies to
>>> draft-gont-opsec-ipv6-nd-security-01?  If so, has this IPR been
>>> disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules? (See RFCs 3979, 4879,
>>> 3669, and 5378 for more details.)
>> 
>> I know of no IPR claims on the aforementioned document (and would be
>> disappointed if there were any, I should say :-) ).
> 
> Fair 'nuff.  
> 
> I assumed that, but it doesn't hurt to ask (especially because I have a script to do so :-)) -- having this info available allows the WG to make a decision if they want to adopt or not[0]. It also makes it harder for folk to later claim that they didn't know about the IPR requirements.
> 
> W
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… and it wasn't clear to at least one participant that I was speaking as an individual (I didn't explicitly state so).

<no hats> 
> [0]: Many folk (myself included) would prefer not to adopt an IPR encumbered draft if at all possible.

This was a flippant statement. IPR stuff is complex and subtle.

Personally if I was choosing between two drafts, one with (disclosed) IPR and one without,  I would probably choose the draft with no IPR (assuming all else is equal).
Of course, there is a chance that there is undisclosed IPR on both -- so perhaps the one with the disclosed IPR is actually better (it shows that someone IPR-aware has considered the issue)! Then there all all the considerations about licensing, FRAND, etc. As I said, complex and subtle….

</no hats>

As a chair I will (of course) adopt, progress, etc drafts with IPR. 'tis the WGs decision…


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