Re: [OPSEC] Fwd: ID Tracker State Update Notice: <draft-ietf-opsec-protect-control-plane-06.txt>

George Jones <fooologist@gmail.com> Tue, 04 January 2011 23:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Fwd: ID Tracker State Update Notice: <draft-ietf-opsec-protect-control-plane-06.txt>
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On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:22 AM, John Kristoff <jtk@cymru.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:22:22 -0500
> Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:
>
> > So, our active queue is beginning to look very sparse... I have a
> > draft that I started writing a while ago that Chris Morrow and Danny
> > McPherson have agreed to fix / update (poke...), does anyone have
> > anything else that they are working on?
>
> I had started a port filtering draft.  A second revision has been
> started, but we haven't spent much time on it lately.  I can endeavor
> to get this work going again this week.
>
>  <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kristoff-opsec-port-filtering-00>
>


Looks like you were tackling the "what to filter and why" + gotchas.
Noble.  Useful.
But if the device just can't do it, not sufficient.

Again, what I had in mind was as series of docs that provide testable
security features,
possibly paired with a test methodology.

Before diving into any serious work, though, it would be worth asking the
question,
would anybody care/be positively impacted if the docs were finished.   Does
anybody
do this sort of testing?  Would they?   Would a list in the form of RFCs
help ?

----George Jones