Re: [P2PSIP] Direction on protocol selection
"Spencer Dawkins" <spencer@wonderhamster.org> Thu, 28 February 2008 18:06 UTC
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Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Direction on protocol selection
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It would also be good for people to look at Reload-et-al and see whether they have application scenarios that can't be met with this proposal. We haven't had a meaningful discussion of the application scenarios draft, which is fine, but if there are scenarios in http://www.p2psip.org/drafts/draft-bryan-p2psip-app-scenarios-00.txt that you care about, and Reload-et-al doesn't work for them, this would be a great time to say so. For instance, I've seen postings from Dean that talked about overlays that were large enough that (1) signaling routing efficiency mattered, and (2) media path efficiency mattered. This would be a great example of something to look at in Reload-et-al, and say "no problem", or "we need to talk". The relevant scenarios are probably 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 in http://www.p2psip.org/drafts/draft-bryan-p2psip-app-scenarios-00.txt. Thanks, Spencer _______________________________________________ P2PSIP mailing list P2PSIP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip
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- Re: [P2PSIP] Direction on protocol selection Ted Hardie
- Re: [P2PSIP] Direction on protocol selection Rosen, Brian
- Re: [P2PSIP] Direction on protocol selection Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [P2PSIP] Direction on protocol selection Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [P2PSIP] Direction on protocol selection Cullen Jennings
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