Re: [P2PSIP] Jari Arkko's Discuss on draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics-19: (with DISCUSS)
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Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Jari Arkko's Discuss on draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics-19: (with DISCUSS)
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Alissa, > On 19 Mar 2016, at 11:31, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> wrote: > > Jari, > > Are you able to clear now that these changes have been made? The draft has improved, however Section 9.1 still seems incorrect: if the first bit is reserved, then the first allocated value must be 2, so all other allocated values should be shifted by 1 bit. > > Thanks, > Alissa > >> On Jan 29, 2016, at 10:46 PM, Songhaibin (A) <haibin.song@huawei.com> wrote: >> >> Dear Alexey and Jari, >> >> Accept the text what Jari suggested. And now it is clear. >> >> BR, >> -Haibin Song >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Alexey Melnikov [mailto:alexey.melnikov@isode.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 6:36 PM >>> To: Jari Arkko; Songhaibin (A) >>> Cc: The IESG; p2psip-chairs@ietf.org; draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics@ietf.org; >>> p2psip@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Jari Arkko's Discuss on draft-ietf-p2psip-diagnostics-19: >>> (with DISCUSS) >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>>> On 7 Jan 2016, at 00:34, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> In Section 5.3, it says "The dMFlags field described above is a 64 bit field >>> that allows initiator nodes to identify up to 62 items of base information to >>> request in a request message (the first and last flags being reserved)." 62 bits >>> can be used to indicate up to 62 diagnostic Kinds, but dMFlags reserves all "0"s >>> that means nothing is requested, and all "1"s that means everything is >>> requested. But at the same time, the first and last bits cannot be used for >>> other purposes. >>>> >>>> Right. Can that be explained somewhere, and can Section 9.1 show the >>>> two aspects? That is, the all 0s/1s *and* first and last bits being >>>> reserved? The current text does not reserve the first and last bits. >>>> It only reserves the all 0s and all 1s... >>> >>> I thought the same. >>>> >>>> +-------------------------+------------------------------+----------+ >>>> | diagnostic information |diagnostic flag in dMFlags | RFC | >>>> |-------------------------+------------------------------+----------| >>>> |Reserved | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0000 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |STATUS_INFO | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0001 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |ROUTING_TABLE_SIZE | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0002 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |PROCESS_POWER | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0004 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |UPSTREAM_BANDWIDTH | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0008 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |DOWNSTREAM_ BANDWIDTH | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0010 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |SOFTWARE_VERSION | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0020 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |MACHINE_UPTIME | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0040 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |APP_UPTIME | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0080 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |MEMORY_FOOTPRINT | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0100 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |DATASIZE_STORED | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0200 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |INSTANCES_STORED | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0400 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |MESSAGES_SENT_RCVD | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0800 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |EWMA_BYTES_SENT | 0x 0000 0000 0000 1000 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |EWMA_BYTES_RCVD | 0x 0000 0000 0000 2000 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |UNDERLAY_HOP | 0x 0000 0000 0000 4000 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |BATTERY_STATUS | 0x 0000 0000 0000 8000 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |Reserved | 0x FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> +-------------------------+------------------------------+----+ >>>> >>>> But maybe I'm missing something. >>>> >>>> I thought the text above should be something like this instead: >>> >>> Exactly my point. If what Jari suggests is not true, then the text needs even >>> more work. >>>> >>>> +-------------------------+------------------------------+----------+ >>>> | diagnostic information |diagnostic flag in dMFlags | RFC | >>>> |-------------------------+------------------------------+----------| >>>> |Reserved All 0s value | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0000 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |Reserved First Bit | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0001 |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |STATUS_INFO | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0002 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |ROUTING_TABLE_SIZE | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0004 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |PROCESS_POWER | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0008 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |UPSTREAM_BANDWIDTH | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0010 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |DOWNSTREAM_ BANDWIDTH | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0020 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |SOFTWARE_VERSION | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0040 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |MACHINE_UPTIME | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0080 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |APP_UPTIME | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0100 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |MEMORY_FOOTPRINT | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0200 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |DATASIZE_STORED | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0400 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |INSTANCES_STORED | 0x 0000 0000 0000 0800 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |MESSAGES_SENT_RCVD | 0x 0000 0000 0000 1000 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |EWMA_BYTES_SENT | 0x 0000 0000 0000 2000 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |EWMA_BYTES_RCVD | 0x 0000 0000 0000 4000 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |UNDERLAY_HOP | 0x 0000 0000 0000 8000 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |BATTERY_STATUS | 0x 0000 0000 0001 0000 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |Reserved Last Bit | 0x 8000 0000 0000 0000 >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> |Reserved All 1s Value | 0x FFFF FFFF FFFF FFFF >>> |RFC-[TBDX]| >>>> +-------------------------+------------------------------+----+ >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, Section 5.3 uses "delimited" when it probably should have said >>>>>> "terminated", unless there's more substructure in the >>>>>> SOFTWARE_VERSION string than is identified by the text. >>>>> >>>>> It is the language problem and accepted. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Jari >
- [P2PSIP] Jari Arkko's Discuss on draft-ietf-p2psi… Jari Arkko
- Re: [P2PSIP] Jari Arkko's Discuss on draft-ietf-p… Songhaibin (A)
- Re: [P2PSIP] Jari Arkko's Discuss on draft-ietf-p… Jari Arkko
- Re: [P2PSIP] Jari Arkko's Discuss on draft-ietf-p… Songhaibin (A)
- Re: [P2PSIP] Jari Arkko's Discuss on draft-ietf-p… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [P2PSIP] Jari Arkko's Discuss on draft-ietf-p… Jari Arkko
- Re: [P2PSIP] Jari Arkko's Discuss on draft-ietf-p… Alexey Melnikov