Re: [Pals] Review of draft-ietf-pals-endpoint-fast-protection-04

"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Tue, 06 December 2016 12:51 UTC

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David,

Thanks for your review!

Cheers,
Andy

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 7:30 PM, IETF Secretariat <
ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org> wrote:

> Reviewer: David Black
> Review result: Ready with Issues
>
> I've reviewed this document as part of TSV-ART's ongoing effort to
> review key IETF documents. These comments were written primarily for
> the transport area directors, but are copied to the document's authors
> for their information and to allow them to address any issues raised.
> When done at the time of IETF Last Call, the authors should consider
> this review together with any other last-call comments they receive.
> Please always CC tsv-art@ietf.org if you reply to or forward this
> review.
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> This draft specifies local pseudowire (PW) repair mechanisms to
> quickly react to PW egress failures by rerouting traffic around the
> failure until slower-to-react repair mechanisms at larger scope are
> able to effect longer term repairs, e.g., via network topology
> changes.
>
> -- TSV-ART review comments:
>
> I found a couple of minor transport-related issues, both of which
> should be resolvable with modest amounts of additional explanation:
>
> * ECMP: The ECMP discussion in Section 4.1 on Applicability takes a
> conservative approach to avoiding packet reordering by recommending
> (SHOULD) that the entire ECMP set be rerouted as part of local repair.
>  It's not clear what sort of ECMP is involved, as that acronym is used
> without a reference (or even expansion), so I'd suggest citing a
> reference.   If the ECMP used is flow-aware so that reordering across
> ECMP branches within an ECMP set does not cause reordering within any
> of the flows involved, then it ought to be safe from a reordering
> perspective to reroute an ECMP branch or set of branches that are less
> than the full ECMP set, although such partial rerouting could cause
> potentially undesirable forwarding latency differences within the ECMP
> set.  This ought to be discussed, as situations in which rerouting the
> entire ECMP bundle is overly conservative seem likely to arise in
> practice.
>
> * Traffic Engineering: Considering the intended speed of local repair,
> "order of tens of milliseconds" in the abstract, the bandwidth used by
> the repair paths has to be provisioned in advance of any failure that
> causes repair path usage - traffic engineering is a likely means of
> provisioning that bandwidth.  I see "TE domain," "TE metric" and "TE
> path," which I assume refer to Traffic Engineering, but that TE
> acronym is not expanded, and I did not find text requiring traffic
> engineering and/or advance (bandwidth) provisioning of repair paths.
> I assume that this advance bandwidth provisioning of repair paths is
> intended as part of local repair, as not doing that invites immediate
> repair path failure due to lack of forwarding resources, which is
> definitely not desired.  A sentence or two ought to be added to point
> this bandwidth provisioning requirement out, possibly in Section 4.1
> (Applicability).  Adding that text would also reinforce the conclusion
> in the Security Considerations section that local repair reroutes are
> not a security threat, as the new text would add the rationale that
> local repair reroutes are anticipated and planned for by the network
> operator's traffic engineering.
>
> --  Other comments:
>
> * Having found two acronyms that were not expanded, I'd suggest a
> general look for such acronyms.   OTOH, this is an area of network
> technology where many acronyms are in common use, and hence expansion
> of every acronym on first use may be excessive - among the ways of
> avoiding this could be citation of a reference at the start of Section
> 3 where commonly used PW terms and acronyms are defined.
>
>
>