Re: [Pals] Requesting comments on SBFD-VCCV drafts

"Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)" <venggovi@cisco.com> Sun, 19 April 2015 08:14 UTC

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From: "Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)" <venggovi@cisco.com>
To: Jiangyuanlong <jiangyuanlong@huawei.com>, "rtg-bfd@ietf.org" <rtg-bfd@ietf.org>, "pals@ietf.org" <pals@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Pals] Requesting comments on SBFD-VCCV drafts
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Hello Yuanlong,
The intent of these drafts is not to deprecate BFD with SBFD but make them co-existent. A guideline section will be included in the next revision as you suggest. Thanks for your suggestion and apologies for the delay in the reply.
Thanks to Andy Malis for pointing out the same.
Thanks
Prasad

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From: Jiangyuanlong [mailto:jiangyuanlong@huawei.com] 
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Cc: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> (jhaas@pfrc.org); Carlos Pignataro (cpignata); agmalis@gmail.com; nobo.akiya.dev@gmail.com; Stewart Bryant (stbryant)
Subject: RE: Requesting comments on SBFD-VCCV drafts

Hi Stewart, Jeffrey and other authors,

If the purpose of this draft is not to deprecate the original VCCV BFD (0x10) function for MPLS PW, please make it clear:
- One option is clearly removing MPLS/PW-ACH Encapsulation from SBFD so that BFD and SBFD complement with each other.
- Another option is as the document describes, the same MPLS/PW is supported by both SBFD and original BFD, then a guideline section is needed so that consistent BFD type (SBFD or original BFD) can be chosen by the peer PEs (e.g., both BFD types are supported by two PEs associated with a specific BFD session).

Regards,
Yuanlong

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Subject: [Pals] Requesting comments on SBFD-VCCV drafts

Hello all,
   We have submitted two new drafts:
a. draft-gp-pals-seamless-vccv: This draft defines the SBFD protocol operation for VCCV.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gp-pals-seamless-vccv/

b. draft-gp-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator: This draft defines AVPs for advertisement of SBFD discriminators in L2TP.

We welcome comments/ feedback on these drafts.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gp-l2tpext-sbfd-discriminator/

Thanks
Prasad