Re: [Pana] FW: I-D Action:draft-yegin-pana-unspecified-addr-00.txt

> Well the protection of the ARP table will simply drop your packets
> specification
> because they are not DHCP and do not have a valid IP address and thus
> illegal.

Are you talking about your/a product, or a spec?
I don't see that in any spec, including the one you referenced below.

> 
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-baker-sava-cisco-ip-source-guard-00
> 
> Have you thought of running PANA over DHCP instead.
> 
> On 02/03/2010, at 7:56 PM, Alper Yegin wrote:
> 
> > Ric, you have to be really specific.
> > You are not explaining what specific problem you are seeing, and I'm
> not
> > able to imagine.
> > Why would ARP break, please tell us. Both DHCP and Mobile IPv4
> already work
> > with unspecified IP addresses.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Richard Pruss [mailto:ric@cisco.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:17 AM
> >> To: Alper Yegin
> >> Cc: pana@ietf.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Pana] FW: I-D Action:draft-yegin-pana-unspecified-
> addr-
> >> 00.txt
> >>
> >>
> >> On 02/03/2010, at 6:09 PM, Alper Yegin wrote:
> >>
> >>>> This will break networks in so many ways it is hard to even
> predict.
> >>>> What will the average ARP implementation do with this horror.
> >>>
> >>> Please elaborate.
> >>
> >> You really do like to answer a question with a question,
> >> What will ARP do with the packets of your draft?
> >> All parts of ARP, gratuitous, probe, arp learning, spoofing
> protection,
> >> it all seems to fall apart.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On 02/03/2010, at 12:47 AM, Alper Yegin wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Comments are welcome.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:i-d-announce-
> >>>> bounces@ietf.org]
> >>>>> On Behalf Of Internet-Drafts@ietf.org
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:00 PM
> >>>>> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
> >>>>> Subject: I-D Action:draft-yegin-pana-unspecified-addr-00.txt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-
> Drafts
> >>>>> directories.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 	Title           : Protocol for Carrying Authentication for
> >>>> Network
> >>>>> Access (PANA) with IPv4 Unspecified Address
> >>>>> 	Author(s)       : A. Yegin, Y. Ohba
> >>>>> 	Filename        : draft-yegin-pana-unspecified-addr-00.txt
> >>>>> 	Pages           : 9
> >>>>> 	Date            : 2010-03-01
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This document defines how PANA client (PaC) can perform PANA
> >>>> authentication
> >>>>> prior to configuring an IP address.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> >>>>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-yegin-pana-unspecified-
> >>>> addr-00.txt
> >>>>>
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