Re: [Pana] I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecified-addr-05.txt
Alper Yegin <alper.yegin@yegin.org> Mon, 13 February 2012 14:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Pana] I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecified-addr-05.txt
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OK, fine, let's do that. On Feb 13, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Yoshihiro Ohba wrote: > The behavior I mentioned is stated in RFC 5191: > > " > I (IP Reconfiguration) > > If set, it indicates that the PaC is required to perform IP > address reconfiguration after successful authentication and > authorization phase to configure an IP address that is usable for > exchanging data traffic across EP. This bit is set by the PAA > only for PANA-Auth-Request messages in the authentication and > authorization phase. For other messages, this bit MUST be > cleared. > " > > I think the right thing is to just refer to RFC 5191 for the behavior > iwth the 'I' bit set. > > Yoshihiro Ohba > > > (2012/02/13 18:01), Yoshihiro Ohba wrote: >> Forgot to include pana mailing list.. >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [Pana] I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecified-addr-05.txt >> Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:52:36 +0900 >> From: Yoshihiro Ohba<yoshihiro.ohba@toshiba.co.jp> >> To: Alper Yegin<alper.yegin@yegin.org> >> >> (2012/02/09 18:11), Alper Yegin wrote: >> >> (snip) >> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> (3) Page 6, Paragraph 3 >>>> >>>> I have no idea which PAR should have 'I' bit. Every PAR sent by >>>> PAA should have 'I' bit? Or, only a PAR with 'C' bit should have >>>> 'I' bit? (I think the latter is preferable.) >>>> >>>> I've referred to RFC 5191, but I've not found the answer. >>>> >>> >>> I think this is an ambiguity with the RFC 5191. PAR with 'C' bit makes sense. >>> >> >> I have been interpreting the original text as setting 'I' bit for all >> PAR messages sent by the PAA in the authentication and authorization >> phase and clearing the bit for subsequent PAR messages. With this >> behavior, the PAA can set the 'I' bit from the very first PAR message >> and the PaC can immediately stop PANA authentication if the PaC does >> not expect IP address update. I think we need a bit more discussion >> on this. >> >> Yoshihiro Ohba >> >>> >>>> [original] >>>> The PAA SHALL set the 'I' (IP Reconfiguration) bit of PAR messages >>>> in authentication and authorization phase so that the PaC proceeds >>>> to IP address configuration. >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> (4) Page 6, Paragraph 7 >>>> I don't think that the description about the size of the largest PANA >>>> is correct. This is because the initial PAR could have multiple >>>> Integrity-Algorithm AVPs and PRF-Algorithm AVPs. This specification is >>>> described in Section 4.1, RFC 5191. >>>> >>>> [Section 4.1. in RFC 5191] >>>> the PAA sends the initial PANA-Auth-Request carrying one or more >>>> PRF-Algorithm AVPs and one or more Integrity-Algorithm AVPs for the >>>> PRF and integrity algorithms supported by it, respectively. >>>> >>>> In my understanding, it is sufficient to consider a PANA Message which >>>> has only one EAP-Payload AVP for "Message Size Considerations". In >>>> other words, the minimum PANA MTU size is equivalent to the size of a >>>> PANA message which has only one EAP-Payload AVP. >>>> >>> >>> >>> We are trying to find the the size of the largest PANA message. >>> The largest PANA message is possibly not the very first PAR from the PAA (unlike the current draft states). >>> Such a PAR can be carrying a EAP-Request/Identity, hence not really be caring a minimum EAP MTU size. >>> A subsequent PAR can be carrying that (and it'd not have the Integrity-Algorithm, PRF-Algorithm, and Token AVPs). >>> >>> Are you using the same reasoning for your above suggestion? >>> >>> Alper >>> >>> >>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pana mailing list >>>> Pana@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pana >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pana mailing list >>> Pana@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pana >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pana mailing list >> Pana@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pana >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pana mailing list > Pana@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pana
- [Pana] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecif… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Pana] I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecifi… Rafa Marin Lopez
- Re: [Pana] I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecifi… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Pana] I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecifi… Rafa Marin Lopez
- Re: [Pana] I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecifi… Yasuyuki Tanaka
- Re: [Pana] I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecifi… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Pana] I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecifi… Yasuyuki Tanaka
- Re: [Pana] I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecifi… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Pana] I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecifi… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [Pana] I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecifi… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Pana] I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecifi… Yoshihiro Ohba
- [Pana] Fwd: Re: I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unsp… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [Pana] Fwd: Re: I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [Pana] I-D Action: draft-yegin-pana-unspecifi… Alper Yegin